Pirates Second Half

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Pirates Second Half

Postby Crimson's Ghost » July 15th, 2018, 5:48 pm

As usual, the Pirates finish the first half strong.  Happens every year.  So heading into the All Star break, they're still pretty far out of the division lead, but they should be 5-6 out of a wild card spot.  At the end of the day, I don't think this team is really going to make the playoffs - they just aren't that good.  They aren't THAT bad, either.  That's what they were projected to be, and that's basically what they have been.  
So having said that, what do you do with the team for the second half?  You are the manager and general manager. What does this team look like on Friday if you were the one in charge?

Starting Rotation (Fill in the Blank)
1. 
2.
3. 
4. 
5. 
Choices - Jameson Taillon, Steven Brault, Tyler Glasnow, Clay Holmes, Nick Kingham, Joe Musgrove, Ivan Nova, Trevor Williams
Ineligible - Chad Kuhl (DL)

Bullpen (Fill in the Blank)
Closer 
8th Inning guy - 
7th Inning guy - 
Reliever -
Reliever -
Reliever -
Reliever - 

Choices - Tanner Anderson, Steven Brault, Kyle Crick, Michael Feliz, Tyler Glasnow, Clay Holmes, Alex McRae, Dovydas Neverauskas, Richard Rodriguez, Edgar Santana, Josh Smoker, Felipe Vazquez.


Starting Lineup (Fill in the Blank)
Catcher - 
First Basemen -
Second Basemen - 
Third Basemen -
Shortstop -
Left Field - 
Center Field - 
Right Field - 

Choices - Elias Diaz, Jacob Stallings, Josh Bell, Adam Frazier, David Freese, Josh Harrison, Jordy Mercer, Colin Moran, Max Moroff, Jose Osuna, Corey Dickerson, Jordan Luplow, Starling Marte, Austin Meadows, Gregory Polanco, Kevin Newman, Chris Bostick.
Ineligible - Jung-ho Kang (DL), Francisco Cervelli (DL), Sean Rodriguez (DL)


Bench (Fill in the Blank)
1. 
2. 
3. 
4. 
5.
Choices - Elias Diaz, Jacob Stallings, Josh Bell, Adam Frazier, David Freese, Josh Harrison, Jordy Mercer, Colin Moran, Max Moroff, Jose Osuna, Corey Dickerson, Jordan Luplow, Starling Marte, Austin Meadows, Gregory Polanco, Kevin Newman, Chris Bostick.



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Re: Pirates Second Half

Postby konjo78 » July 15th, 2018, 5:51 pm

We are in the same place with the pirates year after year now.

They are not hot garbage by they are not playoff contenders. My guess is theyll trade 1 or 2 starters away for prospects and end the season 10-20 games under .500

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Re: Pirates Second Half

Postby Crimson's Ghost » July 15th, 2018, 5:52 pm

Also since the trade deadline is approaching, let's play, "Should they trade 'em?"

Corey Dickerson -
Jordy Mercer -
Josh Harrison -
David Freese -
Ivan Nova -
Francisco Cervelli -


Alternate scenario one - The Pirates open the All-Star break losing 10 in a row....
Should they trade....

Gregory Polanco -
Staring Marte -
Felipe Vazquez -


Alternate Version #2 - The Pirates win 10 in a row to start the second half
Should they trade....

Mitch Keller -

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Re: Pirates Second Half

Postby Crimson's Ghost » July 15th, 2018, 5:53 pm

konjo78 wrote:We are in the same place with the pirates year after year now.

They are not hot garbage by they are not playoff contenders. My guess is theyll trade 1 or 2 starters away for prospects and end the season 10-20 games under .500

I think your preseason prediction was 62-100.  Pirates would need to go 14-51 in the second half for that to happen. 

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Re: Pirates Second Half

Postby konjo78 » July 15th, 2018, 5:53 pm

Crimson's Ghost wrote:
konjo78 wrote:We are in the same place with the pirates year after year now.

They are not hot garbage by they are not playoff contenders. My guess is theyll trade 1 or 2 starters away for prospects and end the season 10-20 games under .500

I think your preseason prediction was 62-100.  

Itd be better for the org if they were 62-100

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Re: Pirates Second Half

Postby Crimson's Ghost » July 15th, 2018, 5:55 pm

Perhaps, but that was just a bad prediction.

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Re: Pirates Second Half

Postby konjo78 » July 15th, 2018, 5:57 pm

I would agree with that. But something is true about their record now and that record. Neither is putting them into the playoffs.

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Re: Pirates Second Half

Postby Crimson's Ghost » July 15th, 2018, 6:07 pm

Starting Rotation (Fill in the Blank) 
1. Jameson Taillon
2. Joe Musgrove 
3. Ivan Nova
4. Trevor Williams
5. Nick Kingham 


Bullpen (Fill in the Blank) 
Closer - Felipe Vazquez
8th Inning guy - Kyle Crick 
7th Inning guy - Tyler Glasnow
Reliever - Richard Rodriguez 
Reliever - Edgar Santana
Reliever - Michael Feliz
Reliever - Steven Brault

Starting Lineup (Fill in the Blank) 
1. Left Field - Corey Dickerson
2. Center Field - Starling Marte
3. Right Field - Gregory Polanco
4. Third Basemen - Colin Moran
5. First Basemen - Josb Bell
6. Catcher - Elias Diaz 
7. Shortstop - Jordy Mercer
8. Second Basemen - Josh Harrison


Bench (Fill in the Blank) 
1. Austin Meadows
2. David Freese  
3. Adam Frazier
4. Jose Osuna
5. Jacob Stallings

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Re: Pirates Second Half

Postby Crimson's Ghost » July 15th, 2018, 6:14 pm

Also since the trade deadline is approaching, let's play, "Should they trade 'em?" 
In this scenario, the Pirates stay right around .500.

Corey Dickerson - Probably, he should have OK value at this point. 
Jordy Mercer - I'd keep him through the end of the year. 
Josh Harrison - I'd like to get rid of him; but I doubt he has a very good trade value at this point. 
David Freese - Yeah, no real need to keep him around. 
Ivan Nova - He may have decent value if the starting market is low - trade him. 
Francisco Cervelli - Before the most recent concussion, he had really good trade value.  Now.....?


Alternate scenario one - The Pirates open the All-Star break losing 10 in a row.... Should they trade.... 
Gregory Polanco - They should look into it at least. 
Staring Marte - No, he's their only really good player and he's underpaid as it is. He's always a good bargain for the Pirates. 
Felipe Vazquez - Only if you get a king's random like the Yankees got for Chapman two years ago. 

Alternate Version #2 - 
The Pirates win 10 in a row to start the second half Should they trade.... 
Mitch Keller - Probably not, it's just not the year to go all-in.  Especially if they didn't in 2015. 

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Re: Pirates Second Half

Postby EaglealumsGhost » July 15th, 2018, 9:48 pm

I don’t care enough anymore to type that much.... if they can’t dump nutting and hurdle what’s the point?..... only one I’d be happy to trade away is Polanco.


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