Should steelers look to trade bell?

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Re: Should steelers look to trade bell?

Postby Crimson's Ghost » July 28th, 2017, 3:11 pm

He's playing for the Steelers this year. I can assure you that.



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Re: Should steelers look to trade bell?

Postby Aiks19 » July 29th, 2017, 7:03 am

No don't trade him. At the same time I'm happy he didn't sign the steelers contract offer. Way to much money for a running back especially one you can't count on being on the field.

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Re: Should steelers look to trade bell?

Postby sydfinch » July 29th, 2017, 9:30 am

Konjo, do you understand what Bell's "holdout" really means? He has zero leverage whether he signs or doesn't sign the franchise tender. He's entitled to sit out training camp as an unsigned player, but under the current labor agreement if he misses games he loses $712,000 per week. A veteran running backs requires near zero reps to be game ready. In fact, it'd be a blessing if Bell misses preseason contact.

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Re: Should steelers look to trade bell?

Postby abpk2903 » July 29th, 2017, 9:31 am

I think Konjo thinks trading a football player in real life is like trading them in Madden.  

Answer me this....

how many teams in the league have either a franchise tag still available or enough cap space to sign Bell long term?  Are you even allowed to trade for a player with the intention to tag them. This will take probably 25 teams out of the option for trading for Bell.
So there are about a half of dozen teams that are left. Probably most of the teams with cap space are in rebuild mode or don't have the players that would help the Steelers get better. 
Also, the Steelers are pretty tight to the cap so the only way to really trade for a good player is if they are still on their rookie contract. What team will want to trade away a good player that is still on their entry level contract?  Remember Bell doesn't count against the cap. So any trade involving Bell would only hurt the Steelers cap situation. 
Let's not forget that the owners in the NFL always look out for each other's checkbooks first and foremost. What kind of precedent would it set if when a player holds out, they ultimately get traded and a monster contract? Next year, half the league would hold out holding for the same outcome.
But yeah, let's just work up a deal for the best RB on the league over the last 3 seasons who isn't even hurting the cap. To be honest, I'm fine with Bell saving reps on his body during July and August. Let Connor get those reps.

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Re: Should steelers look to trade bell?

Postby Crimson's Ghost » July 29th, 2017, 11:07 am

Bell can't stay healthy for a full year anyway, might as well save his legs during August. 

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Re: Should steelers look to trade bell?

Postby konjo78 » July 29th, 2017, 11:45 am

I know the rules about holdouts and it costing bell later on. This is more about the principle of how a player is and has acted for the organization.

He has been suspended for smoking weed once(with a fellow running back), he has not been able to last a full post season without an injury, he has been suspended for failing to take a drug test, and now he is holding out because of a contract dispute. He may be a great talent but his actions are very harmful to the team in the end.

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Re: Should steelers look to trade bell?

Postby konjo78 » July 29th, 2017, 11:45 am

I know the rules about holdouts and it costing bell later on. This is more about the principle of how a player is and has acted for the organization.

He has been suspended for smoking weed once(with a fellow running back), he has not been able to last a full post season without an injury, he has been suspended for failing to take a drug test, and now he is holding out because of a contract dispute. He may be a great talent but his actions are very harmful to the team in the end.

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Re: Should steelers look to trade bell?

Postby konjo78 » August 10th, 2017, 12:05 pm

This is getting ridiculous now. ESPN has a grreat article today from pittsburghs GM on why its stupid he hasnt signed and shown up yet.

1. He is missing valuable time with his teammates and coaches

2. He would be making 12 million dollars when he does sign the tender.

3. They actually cant offer or sign him to a long term contract anymore so the tag is the only thing the steelers are allowed to do. So he is holding out for what?


Also since he is not under any contract he is actually not going to be fined for missing any games.

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Re: Should steelers look to trade bell?

Postby knowitall » August 10th, 2017, 12:18 pm

I expect he'll show up by Labor Day.

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Re: Should steelers look to trade bell?

Postby Crimson's Ghost » August 10th, 2017, 2:17 pm

He's betting on himself. Play two years under the franchise tag and make $30 million or whatever and hope in the 2019 offseason he's still as good as he is now and gets a big pay day.  

It's a risk. because the offer the Steelers offered wasn't that bad.  But the risk is he can make a whole heck of a lot of money after the franchise tag years. 

We'll see. Missing camp won't hurt him too much.  RB is a position where he can adjust rather quickly. 


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