Konjos Top 10 College football rankings Week 13

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Re: Konjos Top 10 College football rankings Week 13

Postby konjo78 » November 27th, 2017, 1:21 pm

Im sorry but USF just lost to UCF and is in the top 25 for both the AP and Coaches?

Coaches have memphis ahead of ND. I missef fresno that is my bad



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Re: Konjos Top 10 College football rankings Week 13

Postby DragonsDoExist » November 27th, 2017, 2:08 pm

konjo78 wrote:Im sorry but USF just lost to UCF and is in the top 25 for both the AP and Coaches?

Coaches have memphis ahead of ND. I missef fresno that is my bad


USF has 1 win vs a team with a winning record....Stony Brook. They are 9-2 and ranked because they play the same garbage that UCF has played.

The worst SOS rankings in the current AP top 25...

1. USF
2. UCF
3. Memphis


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Re: Konjos Top 10 College football rankings Week 13

Postby konjo78 » November 27th, 2017, 2:47 pm

Not denything their schedule are weal but there is an illusion that power 5 teams automatically are just amazing godsenders.

Bottom power 5 teams arent much better than bottom group of 5 teams.

But ignoring power 5 teams losses its annoying.

Ohio State lost to 31 to Iowa... IOWA!!!!!

Syracuse Beat clemson... A 4-8 syracuse team who lost to middle tennesee state.

Miami lost to Pitt... 5-7 team.

Iowa state took out both OU and TCU and they are 7-5 on the season.

This year is a bit different because so many top teams have horrible losses on their record but also quality wins.

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Re: Konjos Top 10 College football rankings Week 13

Postby abpk2903 » November 27th, 2017, 2:58 pm

I know we keep going back and forth about UCF’s “schedule” but I will stand by the fact that it is absolute garbage and probably 15-20 power 5 conference teams would have went undefeated with their schedule.

 

Wisconsin and Alabama are often referred to as the weakest of P5 schedules so let’s go week by week and see how they really do stack up.

 

Game 1:

Alabama played Florida State at a neutral site.  Florida State last 3 recruiting classes were 6th, 3rd, and 3rd.  They have 44 players on their roster with 4* or higher designations in the last 3 recruiting cycles.

Wisconsin played Utah State at home.  Last 3 classes 104th, 92nd, and 96th.  They do not have a 4* or higher player in their last 3 classes.

Central Florida played FIU.   Last 3 classes 83rd ,104th, and 100th.  They do not have a 4* or higher player in their last 3 classes.

Game 2:

Alabama played Fresno State at home.  Last 3 classes were 84th, 85th, and 72nd.  1 player had a 4* designation.

Wisconsin played Florida Atlantic at home.  Last 3 classes were 60th, 89th, and 79th. 1 player had a 4* designation.

Central Florida postponed due to hurricane.

Game 3:

Alabama played Colorado State at home. Last 3 classes 73rd, 76th, and 119th.  No recruits of 4* or more.

Wisconsin played BYU on the road. Last 3 classes 66th, 49th, and 65th. 4 recruits of 4* or more.

Central Florida played Maryland on the road. Last 3 classes 18th, 41st,  and 47th. 13 recruits with a 4* or higher rating.

 

Game 4:

Alabama played Vanderbilt on the road.  Last 3 classes 65th, 54th, 49th. 3 recruits with a 4* or higher rating

Wisconsin played Northwestern at home. Last 3 classes 50th, 52nd, 55th. 1 with a 4* or higher rating.

Central Florida played Cincinnati on the road.  Last 3 classes 63rd, 74th, and 68th.  No 4* or higher rated players

Game 5:

Alabama played Ole Miss at home. Last 3 classes 31st, 5th, and 17th . 25 recruits of 4* or more.

Wisconsin played Nebraska on the road. Last 3 classes 23rd, 26th, and 30th . 14 recruits of 4* or more.

Central Florida played Memphis at home.  Last 3 classes 56th, 61st, and 77th. 2 recruits of 4* or more.

Game 6:

Alabama played Texas A&M on the road. Last 3 classes 13th,18th,and 11th.  29 recruits of 4* or more.

Wisconsin played Purdue at home. Last 3 classes 72nd, 80th, and 67th. No 4* or higher rated recruits.

Central Florida played East Carolina at home. Last 3 classes 79th, 79th, and 93rd.  No 4* or higher rated recruits.

Game 7:

Alabama played Arkkansas at home. Last 3 classes 27th, 23rd, and 22nd. 24 recruits with a 4* or higher rating

Wisconsin played Maryland at home. Last 3 classes 18th, 41st,  and 47th. 13 recruits with a 4* or higher rating.

UCF played Navy on the road. Last 3 classes 80th, 91st, and 112th.  No 4* or higher recruits.

Game 8:

Alabama played Tennessee at home.  Last 3 classes 17th, 14th, and 4th. 31 recruits with a 4* or higher rating

Wisconsin played Illinois on the road. Last 3 classes 46th, 73rd, and 48th.  2 recruits with a 4* or higher rating.

Central Florida played Austin Peay at home.  Last 3 classes 132nd, 144th, and 153rd.  No recruits with a 4* or higher rating.

Game 9:

Alabama played LSU at home. Last 3 classes 7th, 2nd, and 5th. 46 recruits with a 4* or higher rating

Wisconsin played Indiana on the road. Last 3 classes 62nd,  53rd, and 53rd. No recruits with a 4* or higher rating

Central Florida played SMU on the road. Last 3 classes 80th, 75th, and 81st.  No recruits with a 4* or higher rating.

Game 10:

Alabama played Miss St on the road. Last 3 classes 24th, 28th, and 18th. 14 recruits with a 4* or higher rating.

Wisconsin played Iowa at home. Last 3 classes 41st, 47th, and 59th. 4 recruits with a 4* or higher rating.

Central Florida played UConn at home.  Last 3 classes 101st, 99th, and 99th.  No recruits with a 4* or higher rating.

Game 11:

Alabama played Mercer at home. Last 3 classes 138th, 187th, and 176th.  No recruits with a 4* or higher rating.

Wisconsin played Michigan at home. Last 3 classes 5th, 8th, and 37th.  41 recruits with a 4* or higher rating.

Central Florida played Temple on the road. Last 3 classes 119th, 59th, and 80th.  1 recruit with a 4* or higher rating.

Game 12:

Alabama played Auburn on the road. Last 3 classes 9th, 9th, and 8th.  44 recruits with a 4* or higher rating.

Wisconsin played Minnesota on the road. Last 3 classes 59th, 46th, and 63rd.  1 recruit with a 4* or higher rating.

Central Florida played South Florida at home.  Last 3 classes 76th, 66th, and 66th.  1 recruit with a 4* or higher rating.

 

Average recruiting class Alabama played against 41st.

Average recruiting class Wisconsin played against 54th.

Average recruiting class Central Florida played against 83rd.

Number of 4* or greater recruits that Alabama faced this year. 261 or 22 per game

Number of 4* or greater recruits that Wisconsin faced this year. 81 or 7 per game

Number of 4* or greater recruits that Central Florida faced this year. 17 or less than 2 per game.

 

As much as we want to love the underdog story, these teams just played entirely different brands of football this year.

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Re: Konjos Top 10 College football rankings Week 13

Postby DragonsDoExist » November 27th, 2017, 3:01 pm

Yeah those teams don't have the benefit of prepping for cupcakes week in and week out. Everyone having similar losses goes to show just how hard it is to play a power 5 schedule. I see ur argument but the truth is there is a reason they aren't even in the conversation.


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Re: Konjos Top 10 College football rankings Week 13

Postby konjo78 » November 27th, 2017, 3:19 pm

Man i look at that first two weeks for alabama and it just reminds me how little class ranks mean... The one with 3 top 6 ranked recruitment classes is 5-6 barely going to make a bowl game while fresno, whose classes are all higher than 70, is now alabamas best non conference opponent...

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Re: Konjos Top 10 College football rankings Week 13

Postby Crimson's Ghost » November 27th, 2017, 3:37 pm

Florida State could very well beat Fresno State and it would shock nobody.

You don't need to have all top 10 recruiting classes to be a great team, but it makes life a lot easier if you have better recruiting classes.

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Re: Konjos Top 10 College football rankings Week 13

Postby konjo78 » November 27th, 2017, 4:01 pm

It would surprise me but your statement is 100% true about recruiting classes. You guys are entitled and arent wrong in your opinions either.


I would just rather a questionable undefeated team in the 4 team playoff than a 2 loss team or non conference champion thats also questionable. I dont want a repeat last year of a non conference champion getting in only to be blown out.

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Re: Konjos Top 10 College football rankings Week 13

Postby konjo78 » November 27th, 2017, 4:03 pm

If it were me i would have a 16 team playoff.

All 10 conference champions make it and 6 atlarge teams. Then you can avoid this BS arguement because everyone thought the big 10 was amazing last year but when it came to bowls they were almost the worst of power 5 conferences

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Re: Konjos Top 10 College football rankings Week 13

Postby PLDragons24 » November 27th, 2017, 7:03 pm

Not how I would rank them but how I think it’s going to be. 
1. Clemson
2. Oklahoma 
3. Auburn
4. Alabama
5. Wisconsin 
6. Georgia 
7. Miami
8. Ohio State
9. Penn State
10. TCU


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