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Re: College Hoops

Postby Crimson's Ghost » March 27th, 2018, 2:28 pm

Duke's never going to get in trouble, he's fine.


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Re: College Hoops

Postby konjo78 » March 27th, 2018, 2:32 pm

How in the world do you say that? And its not about duke but him, who is now in pitt. If he is caught paying recruita well what happens then? I think thats incredibly reasonable.

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Postby Crimson's Ghost » March 27th, 2018, 2:39 pm

I haven't heard a word about Capel being in trouble. Nobody commenting on the hire today has brought it up except you, so unless you know more than the national writers and the committee to hire Pitt, I feel OK about it.

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Re: College Hoops

Postby konjo78 » March 27th, 2018, 2:53 pm

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basket ... jyb96x4prw

Thats from last month. Its not exactly something anyone wants to talk about either but simple logic relates the two. He is the head guy for Duke recruiting, Duke has been named as a school that potentially pays recruits to play for them, and he is known as a top reason they get top recruits.

Im not even trying hard to connect dots here its extremely logical

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Re: College Hoops

Postby Crimson's Ghost » March 27th, 2018, 2:59 pm

konjo78 wrote:http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/college-basketball-scandal-duke-north-carolina-michigan-state-andy-miller-christian-dawkins/1rbuw6zo74l1z1knjyb96x4prw

Thats from last month.  Its not exactly something anyone wants to talk about either but simple logic relates the two. He is the head guy for Duke recruiting, Duke has been named as a school that potentially pays recruits to play for them, and he is known as a top reason they get top recruits.

Im not even trying hard to connect dots here its extremely logical

Duke, Coach K, and Capel aren't mentioned anywhere in that article. A Duke player had dinner with an agent is all I'm seeing.  Is there an article out there that implicates Capel in any of the recent problems surrounding college basketball?

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Re: College Hoops

Postby Crimson's Ghost » March 27th, 2018, 3:01 pm

Nice article by Paul Zeise...

There were times throughout this search for a new basketball coach that it seemed as if Pitt athletic director Heather Lyke would have to settle for someone less than what the program needs. She didn’t, though, and ended up with maybe the best coach she could have hired, given the circumstances, and deserves a lot of credit for that.

Lyke will introduce Duke associate head coach Jeff Capel as Pitt’s next head coach Wednesday and that should be celebrated by Pitt fans. There is nothing to dislike about this hire. I’m not even sure Connecticut, which hired Lyke’s first target, Dan Hurley, ended up in a better place than Pitt, because Capel has 12 seasons of experience working in a Power 5 conference.

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Capel is young (43) and hungry to prove himself after the way his stint at Oklahoma ended. He has head coaching experience (four years at Virginia Commonwealth and five years at Oklahoma) and a reputation as an excellent recruiter. He is also a black man, the first Pitt has hired to lead its men’s basketball program, and that’s significant at an urban university.

Pitt got a qualified coach who happens to also be the young, black son of a coach. Those things are all a bonus.


Duke associate head coach Jeff Capel shakes Grayson Allen's hand as he exits the game against Iona on March 15 at PPG Paints Arena. Pitt hired Capel as its new coach Tuesday.
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Jeff Capel hired as Pitt's next men's basketball coach
Capel is mature for his age, given his experience. He has refined his coaching skills under the guidance of perhaps the greatest coach in college basketball history, Mike Krzyzewski, the past seven years. He is Krzyzewski’s right-hand man and twice has stepped in as Duke’s interim coach.

Some believe he was/is destined to be Duke’s heir apparent when Krzyzewski steps away, but there never was a guarantee of that. Capel, who played at Duke, knew it was time to go prove he can run his own program again. The only way he’d be considered now is if he has success at Pitt, which would mean he’d be leaving Pitt in a much better place than he found it.

The past seven years at Duke have been important for Capel’s development. He was inexperienced when he was a head coach. He was the youngest head coach in Division I (27) when he was hired at VCU and he was only 31 when he was hired at Oklahoma.

He led the Sooners to NCAA tournament berths in two of his first three years. That fourth season was a disappointment because of key injuries and a scandal involving one of his assistant coaches and a player receiving impermissible benefits. That led to a mass exodus of players and all but sunk his fifth and final season with the Sooners.

Capel’s official record as a head coach is 162-110 (.596), taking into account vacated wins from his fourth season at Oklahoma. If you add the wins his team actually earned into the equation, he is 175-97 (.643). He has led three teams to the NCAA tournament and a fourth to the NIT.

There will be some diehard Pitt fans who ask why Capel got the benefit of the doubt that Sean Miller didn’t, considering his NCAA troubles. If you have to ask that, you probably aren’t willing to hear the answer. Capel’s troubles were eight years ago and have already been resolved, while Miller’s are fresh and still hanging over his head.

The wealth of knowledge Capel brings with him from working under Coach K, though, is not what separates him in my mind from pretty much every other candidate — including Hurley — in this search. What separates Capel is his recruiting ability, which should have Pitt fans salivating the most. He has loads of contacts throughout the East and Southeast, and that’s where Pitt needs to recruit. He has recruited Power 5 conference players for the past 12 years. He has recruited future NBA players at VCU (Eric Maynor), Oklahoma (Blake Griffin) and Duke (a long list). He has the ability to get into houses to talk to recruits a number of other candidates would not have been able to.


Jeff Capel won a national title as a Duke assistant in 2015.

That doesn’t mean Pitt will suddenly become the one-and-done capital of the Northeast, but Capel gives Pitt access to players it may not have had in the past. In a league like the ACC, the “Jimmies and the Joes” matter a heck of a lot more than “the X’s and O’s.”

Pitt fans hated the Kevin Stallings hire from Day 1 and never gave him a chance. They showed their displeasure by not going to games and basically forced Lyke’s hand to make a move on Stallings after only two years. That’s all in the past. Now that Lyke has brought a dynamic young coach with great pedigree, there are no excuses for Pitt fans not to jump back on board and support the program. Capel brings instant credibility back to Pitt basketball, and that is something that didn’t seem possible even a week ago.

Lyke deserves a lot of praise because she didn’t settle for anything less than hitting a home run with this hire, and she pulled it off.

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Re: College Hoops

Postby Crimson's Ghost » March 27th, 2018, 3:01 pm

It's rare for Pitt to get a fluff piece and praise for a coaching hire, so I'm going to enjoy it for the day.

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Re: College Hoops

Postby konjo78 » March 27th, 2018, 3:05 pm

https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... in-report/

This article goes into better players name and what they might of recieved. It highlights it wasnt a dinner but an undisclosed amount to the mother of the recruit.

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Re: College Hoops

Postby Crimson's Ghost » March 27th, 2018, 3:08 pm

Yeah, Jeff Capel isn't under an active investigation. He won't be either. I think a lot of Pitt fans were willing to bite the bullet with Sean Miller and take the risk, but the school wasn't. If Pitt wasn't willing to let Miller come here, they wouldn't be willing to hire Capel. Hence, he's fine.

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Re: College Hoops

Postby konjo78 » March 27th, 2018, 3:08 pm

https://nypost.com/2018/02/23/duke-kent ... probe/amp/


Another article that named duke and illustrates there is no way a well run program would not know if players were getting paid. Either way FBI now has a door open to look into more programs and probably find out it wasnt just louisville breaking the rules


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