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Postby 223113 » August 10th, 2017, 8:30 am

Forgive me, if I'm asking a question that has already been answered. I saw on the FH website that they will scrimmage BM on Saturday, the 19th. But, what about this weekend? No scrimmages this weekend, only one? Is that true for all teams?



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Re: Scrimmages

Postby Crimson's Ghost » August 10th, 2017, 8:37 am

I could be wrong, but this week is "heat acclimation" isn't it?   I'm not sure you can have a scrimmage if the kids haven't been in pads yet. 

So one week of heat acclimation
One week of actual camp
One week of normal game prep


And then the week of August 25th, can be considered "week zero" and you can choose to play a 10th real game, or a second scrimmage.  Many schools do real games, and in some districts like District 6, they require a 10 game schedule.   The WPIAL however, gives their teams the options to play a scrimmage on the 25. 

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Re: Scrimmages

Postby 223113 » August 10th, 2017, 9:18 am

Perfect.
Thanks for the explanation.

BTW, while I am a proponent of safety first, I'm not a big fan of "heat acclimation",....the way it is being implemented now. As someone else mentioned, employ a little common sense. It should be evaluated based on the weather the first week of camp.
72°, and low humidity,...No.
>85°, and high humidity,...Yes.
And,...shorts? If you want the kids to get acclimated, put all the equipment on, and let them run sprints in that. Delay hitting for 3 days.
Oh, wait, that's we used to do.

I just think, sometimes a little common sense would serve everyone better.

Thx again.

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Re: Scrimmages

Postby billmurray » August 10th, 2017, 3:27 pm

no scrimmages this week, full schedule:  (you can always find master schedules at WesternPAFootball.net http://www.westernpafootball.net/epascoreboard/index.php

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All Districts
2017-08-19
New Brighton @ Ellwood City 09:00 AM 
Plum @ Shaler Area 09:15 AM 
Taylor Allderdice @ North Allegheny 09:30 AM 
Albert Gallatin @ Waynesburg Central 10:00 AM 
Apollo-Ridge @ Cardinal Wuerl North Catholic 10:00 AM 
Avonworth @ Fort Cherry 10:00 AM 
Baldwin @ Canon-McMillan 10:00 AM 
Beaver Falls @ Mars Area 10:00 AM 
Belle Vernon Area @ Gateway 10:00 AM 
Berlin-Brothersvalley @ Chestnut Ridge 10:00 AM 
Bethel Park @ Fox Chapel 10:00 AM 
Bethlehem-Center @ Jefferson-Morgan 10:00 AM 
Bishop Guilfoyle @ Richland Township 10:00 AM 
Blackhawk @ Aliquippa 10:00 AM 
Blairsville @ Greater Johnstown 10:00 AM 
Brashear @ Keystone Oaks 10:00 AM 
Brookville @ Otto-Eldred 10:00 AM  Notes: w/ridgway
Burgettstown @ Yough 10:00 AM 
Burrell @ Ambridge 10:00 AM 
Cameron County @ Brockway 10:00 AM  Notes: with west greene
Carlynton @ Bishop Canevin 10:00 AM 
Carmichaels @ Brownsville 10:00 AM 
Carrick @ Shady Side Academy 10:00 AM 
Central Cambria @ Greater Johnstown 10:00 AM 
Central Mountain @ Bald Eagle Area 10:00 AM 
Charleroi @ California 10:00 AM 
Chartiers Valley @ South Fayette 10:00 AM 
Chartiers-Houston @ Springdale 10:00 AM 
Clarion-Limestone @ Sheffield Area 10:00 AM  Notes: w/Kane
Conemaugh Valley @ Saltsburg 10:00 AM 
Conneaut @ Iroquois 10:00 AM 
Connellsville @ McGuffey 10:00 AM 
Cornell @ Avella Area 10:00 AM 
Corry Area @ General McLane 10:00 AM 
Corry Area @ Eisenhower 10:00 AM 
Coudersport @ Curwensville Area 10:00 AM 
East Allegheny @ Yough 10:00 AM 
Elk County Catholic @ Smethport Area 10:00 AM 
Erie McDowell @ Pine-Richland 10:00 AM 
Forest Hills @ Bishop McCort 10:00 AM 
Frazier @ Monessen 10:00 AM 
Freedom @ Western Beaver 10:00 AM 
Freeport @ Westinghouse 10:00 AM 
Girard @ Meadville 10:00 AM 
Greensburg Central Catholic @ Derry Area 10:00 AM 
Greensburg-Salem @ Greater Latrobe 10:00 AM 
Greenville @ Karns City 10:00 AM 
Hempfield (Youngwood) @ Penn-Trafford 10:00 AM 
Hickory @ Grove City 10:00 AM 
Highlands @ Hampton 10:00 AM 
Hollidaysburg @ Clearfield Area 10:00 AM  Notes: at Mansion Park Altoona w/Wiliamsport/Altoona w/Williamsport/Altoona
Homer-Center @ Redbank Valley 10:00 AM 
Juniata @ Moshannon Valley 10:00 AM  Notes: with Purchase Line
Kane Area @ Sheffield Area 10:00 AM  Notes: w clarion-limestone
Keystone @ Cochranton 10:00 AM 
Knoch @ Kiski Area 10:00 AM 
Leechburg @ Northgate 10:00 AM 
Ligonier Valley @ Chestnut Ridge 10:00 AM  Notes: with Berlin-BrothersValley
Maplewood @ Lakeview 10:00 AM 
Mercer Area @ West Middlesex 10:00 AM 
Mercyhurst Prep @ Reynolds 10:00 AM 
Mohawk Area @ Franklin 10:00 AM 
Moon Area @ Trinity (7) 10:00 AM 
Mount Pleasant Area @ Indiana 10:00 AM 
New Castle @ Seneca Valley 10:00 AM 
North East @ Titusville 10:00 AM 
North Star @ Northern Cambria 10:00 AM 
Norwin @ Franklin Regional 10:00 AM 
Our Lady of the Sacred Heart @ Serra Catholic 10:00 AM 
Penn Cambria @ Bedford 10:00 AM 
Penns Valley @ Mount Union Area 10:00 AM 
Perry Traditional Academy @ North Hills 10:00 AM 
Pittsburgh Central Catholic @ McKeesport Area 10:00 AM 
Purchase Line @ Moshannon Valley 10:00 AM  Notes: with Juniata
Quaker Valley @ South Side Area 10:00 AM 
Ridgway/Johnsonburg @ Otto-Eldred 10:00 AM  Notes: w/brookville
Ringgold @ Montour 10:00 AM 
Riverside (Ellwood City) @ Summit Academy 10:00 AM 
Riverview @ Deer Lakes 10:00 AM 
Rochester @ Beaver Area 10:00 AM 
Seton-LaSalle @ Central Valley 10:00 AM 
Shade @ Claysburg-Kimmel 10:00 AM 
Sharon @ Armstrong 10:00 AM 
Sharpsville @ Neshannock 10:00 AM 
Shenango @ Wilmington Area 10:00 AM 
Slippery Rock @ Cambridge Springs 10:00 AM 
Somerset Area @ Huntingdon Area 10:00 AM 
South Allegheny @ Elizabeth-Forward 10:00 AM 
South Park @ Thomas Jefferson 10:00 AM 
Southern Huntingdon @ Philipsburg-Osceola 10:00 AM 
Southmoreland @ Brentwood 10:00 AM 
Sto-Rox @ Bentworth 10:00 AM 
Tussey Mountain @ Portage Area 10:00 AM 
Tyrone @ Mifflin County 10:00 AM 
Uniontown @ Washington 10:00 AM 
United @ Conemaugh Township 10:00 AM 
University Prep @ Clairton 10:00 AM 
Upper Saint Clair @ Peters Township 10:00 AM 
Valley @ Jeannette 10:00 AM 
Warren Area @ Saint Marys 10:00 AM 
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Re: Scrimmages

Postby DragonsDoExist » August 10th, 2017, 9:39 pm

billmurray wrote:no scrimmages this week, full schedule:  (you can always find master schedules at WesternPAFootball.net http://www.westernpafootball.net/epascoreboard/index.php

All Districts
2017-08-19
Central (6) @ Bellwood-Antis 10:00 AM



Bellwood is at Central at 6pm on the 19th.


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Re: Scrimmages

Postby dadw/2sons » August 10th, 2017, 11:52 pm

223113, you are asking an organization like the PIAA to use common sense in making rulings concerning rules for practices and scrimmages.You do realize that this is the organization that allows a All-Star single A school to compete at the same level as single A schools that have their students living in the boundaries of the school district. This organization has no common sense. It is run by power and money, nothing else.
However, on the heat acclimation week of practices. Basically what you are getting is the same number of practices before the first game as in the past, but the first week is without pads and hitting. So really the kids aren't being hurt. You can't have rules that effect the entire state based on the weather that can be different for different areas that are even as close as 20 miles let alone the difference across the entire state.
You have 6 practices without pads the first week and no scrimmage that Saturday. You have 5 days of two-a-days in full pads and then a scrimmage. The third week you have 4 days of full practice, normally after school and then opening night that Friday. Pretty close to the past except for the first week without pads. I think this schedule is pretty standard for everybody.

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Postby billmurray » August 11th, 2017, 7:52 am

dadw/2sons wrote:223113, you are asking an organization like the PIAA to use common sense in making rulings concerning rules for practices and scrimmages.You do realize that this is the organization that allows a All-Star single A school to compete at the same level as single A schools that have their students living in the boundaries of the school district. This organization has no common sense. It is run by power and money, nothing else.
However, on the heat acclimation week of practices. Basically what you are getting is the same number of practices before the first game as in the past, but the first week is without pads and hitting. So really the kids aren't being hurt. You can't have rules that effect the entire state based on the weather that can be different for different areas that are even as close as 20 miles let alone the difference across the entire state.
You have 6 practices without pads the first week and no scrimmage that Saturday. You have 5 days of two-a-days in full pads and then a scrimmage. The third week you have 4 days of full practice, normally after school and then opening night that Friday. Pretty close to the past except for the first week without pads. I think this schedule is pretty standard for everybody.

I agree with everything except the power and money statement. The PIAA is not some giant entity in Mechanicsburg that is hording cash. Every decision made comes from the voting power of all the districts. The people in Mechanicsburg have zero voting power. They are basically paid employees of every district. Wish people would realize this. Nobody at PIAA headquarters controls anything. People like Bob Lombardi are basically spokesmen. 

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Re: Scrimmages

Postby 223113 » August 11th, 2017, 8:40 pm

dadw/2 sons, of course, I agree that the PIAA couldn't make the decision across the whole state. It could be evaluated by each District, or each school for that matter. The PIAA doesn't have a corner on common sense.

But, in the interest of us not wasting anymore of our time on this, I'll drop it. Like can be said about many things in life, this isn't going to change, so I'll turn the page.

Looking forward to high school football in western PA.

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Re: Scrimmages

Postby billmurray » August 11th, 2017, 10:45 pm

seriously, even each district would have a difficult time with that idea. cold fronts often set up through the middle of the state every which way...so if its 75 in altoona but 86 in state college how do you make that decision???? Each school??? let 557 schools decide because it's only 70 degrees on Monday to drop heat acc...then on thursday its 86?


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