ICC, Westpac, Heritage - A different take

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ICC, Westpac, Heritage - A different take

Postby footballguy99 » November 13th, 2017, 10:04 pm

Instead of arguing the top conference, I'm going to throw my overall rankings out there.  As with NCAA rankings, you know they can change at any time.   I'm basing these simply on what I think/see.  See, Claysburg beat Juniata Valley, Juanita Valley beat Northern Bedford, Mt Union beat Juanita Valley, Northern Bedford beat CK and Mt. Union.  Portage beat Ferndale, Ferndale beat Portage.  So, I'm just ranking based on who I think is where.  Mount Union if healthy would be much higher on this list by the way.  Prior to week 7, they would have been a top 5 team.  Southern Huntingdon also took a big hit when they lost their running back and a linebacker late in the season.  Purchase Line lost Syster.  Teams lost guys, so I based the rankings off who is healthy right now too.  Ferndale and Juniata Valley are the teams who would have trended up based on last week's results.  I think they teams 4-13 could really shuffle on a week to week basis.  I thought NC and Portage would still be playing which would have JV and Fern further down the list. 
1. Ligonier Valley
2. Homer Center
3. Bellwood
4. Berlin
5. Northern Bedford
6. Portage
7. Ferndale
8. Juniata Valley
9. Northern Cambria
10. Windber
11. Claysburg
12. Mount Union
13. Southern Huntingdon
14. Shade
15. Purchase Line
16. Penns Manor
17. West Shamokin
18. West Branch
19. United
20. Meyersdale
21. Glendale
22. Moshannon Valley
23. North Star
24. Blacklick Valley
25. Conemaugh Township
26. Marion Center
27. Tussey Mountain 
28. Everett
29. Saltsburg
30. Blairsville
31. Williamsburg
32. Conemaugh Valley

From my top 15
4 Heritage
6 ICC
5 Westpac



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Re: ICC, Westpac, Heritage - A different take

Postby stangin80 » November 13th, 2017, 11:02 pm

How about altering year cross-over games.? The top 10 from each play.. ICC vs Heritage..Wpac vs ICC..etc. Every third year that your conference is not in the cross-over, then go to a inter conference Championship.

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Re: ICC, Westpac, Heritage - A different take

Postby konjo78 » November 13th, 2017, 11:21 pm

I love the list and the idea it shows! I think HC is too high. Move them from 2 to 4 and id be happy with it all around

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Re: ICC, Westpac, Heritage - A different take

Postby 12HankQB » November 14th, 2017, 8:01 am

I think that HC is getting the high rating based on their defeat of Berlin last year +Portage this year.
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Re: ICC, Westpac, Heritage - A different take

Postby BlueYonder » November 14th, 2017, 5:41 pm

footballguy99 wrote:Instead of arguing the top conference, I'm going to throw my overall rankings out there.  As with NCAA rankings, you know they can change at any time.   I'm basing these simply on what I think/see.  See, Claysburg beat Juniata Valley, Juanita Valley beat Northern Bedford, Mt Union beat Juanita Valley, Northern Bedford beat CK and Mt. Union.  Portage beat Ferndale, Ferndale beat Portage.  So, I'm just ranking based on who I think is where.  Mount Union if healthy would be much higher on this list by the way.  Prior to week 7, they would have been a top 5 team.  Southern Huntingdon also took a big hit when they lost their running back and a linebacker late in the season.  Purchase Line lost Syster.  Teams lost guys, so I based the rankings off who is healthy right now too.  Ferndale and Juniata Valley are the teams who would have trended up based on last week's results.  I think they teams 4-13 could really shuffle on a week to week basis.  I thought NC and Portage would still be playing which would have JV and Fern further down the list. 
1. Ligonier Valley
2. Homer Center
3. Bellwood
4. Berlin
5. Northern Bedford
6. Portage
7. Ferndale
8. Juniata Valley
9. Northern Cambria
10. Windber
11. Claysburg
12. Mount Union
13. Southern Huntingdon
14. Shade
15. Purchase Line
16. Penns Manor
17. West Shamokin
18. West Branch
19. United
20. Meyersdale
21. Glendale
22. Moshannon Valley
23. North Star
24. Blacklick Valley
25. Conemaugh Township
26. Marion Center
27. Tussey Mountain 
28. Everett
29. Saltsburg
30. Blairsville
31. Williamsburg
32. Conemaugh Valley

From my top 15
4 Heritage
6 ICC
5 Westpac

An objective way to do this (if anybody wants to take the time) would be to check the current (or at the end of the year - which would allow for more data points) Maxpreps PA rankings for all of the teams in the three conferences.  Then, for each conference compute an average ranking for that conference.  I am guessing that if you did that, the Heritage would be #1, then the ICC, and then the Westpac.  As an added exercise, find the PIAA enrollment for each team in each of the conferences.  Again, compute an average enrollment.  I would think that the three conference would rank in average enrollment as follows:  Heritage, then ICC, then Westpac.  My point is that the three conferences are probably pretty close on a "per student" basis if you will.  I think it would be an interesting exercise though.


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