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Re: Saltsburg forfeit

Postby Manfred » September 13th, 2018, 8:48 am

The poster child for a district that should combine with one of their closer neighbors is Ferndale. Enough said.


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Re: Saltsburg forfeit

Postby ChrisKentRam » September 13th, 2018, 9:34 am

Is it an advantage for Ligonier to have more kids in our school? No doubt it definitely is.  However, it is my understanding that all of these kids are Ligonier kids.  It's not like the coaches are recruiting from other schools, or we are a school that can pull kids in from all over the area.  We also don't have  kids coming to Ligonier to play with their AAU friends, like what goes on in high school basketball at private and public schools.  

Furthermore, these kids have worked their tails off, and the coaching staff, like them or hate them, have created a winning culture that kids want to be a part of.  We are also going through a phase, where we are blessed with some special athletes.  As many others have said, we haven't been this good for that long.  It has taken time for us to get this good.  When our string of great athletes ends, we might not be this good anymore, but we will still be solid because of the winning culture that has been created.  

I'm not sure why the Heritage would want rid of Ligonier.  It's not like we have won that many championships in football, or any other sport for that matter.  In order for your conference to be successful you need to have good teams.  If Ligonier wasn't in the conference, Homer never would have been tested last year.  I really don't think Homer beats Guilfoyle if they didn't have that game against Ligonier in the regular season.  Homer playing Ligonier in the regular season helped prepare them to be able to beat Guilfoyle.  In the Ligonier-Homer game last year Homer was shell shocked.  They would have been shell shocked by Guilfoyle too, if they hadn't already played a Guilfoyle caliber team in the regular season.    

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Re: Saltsburg forfeit

Postby sasquatch260 » September 13th, 2018, 10:33 am

You can tell a lot about a person or team by the level of competition they want (or don't want) in their conference. I'm impressed with Heritage Conference President Jody Rainey's perspective and desire to make the conference stronger. He's from Homer Center, so he knows the value of having Ligonier in the conference like ChrisKentRam was saying.

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Re: Saltsburg forfeit

Postby tubmill » September 13th, 2018, 1:32 pm

RamFan1,
I must have misunderstood Glenn Richards. He said that Ligonier’s boys lift and that Saltsburg’s kids don’t. He said that the Trojans don’t have the luxury. I made the assumption that they had no weight room.

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Re: Saltsburg forfeit

Postby Lionjacket » September 13th, 2018, 2:20 pm

Manfred wrote:The poster child for a district that should combine with one of their closer neighbors is Ferndale. Enough said.

The actually reality, which most people don’t know, is that Ferndale is more financially stable than either of its neighbors that it would combine with (Westmont and Johnstown). So if anything, they should combine with Ferndale. 

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Re: Saltsburg forfeit

Postby deepcreek » September 13th, 2018, 3:21 pm

Johnstown should have 1 public school.  Having Westmont, Johnstown, Ferndale, CV, and Richland is really something.   Put all those schools together and you still don't have the Altoona enrollment.

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Re: Saltsburg forfeit

Postby Crimson's Ghost » September 13th, 2018, 3:52 pm

Why stop in Johnstown. There’s no real need to have 13 public high schools in Cambria County. 

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Re: Saltsburg forfeit

Postby tmlaur » September 14th, 2018, 10:29 am

ChrisKentRam wrote:Is it an advantage for Ligonier to have more kids in our school? No doubt it definitely is.  However, it is my understanding that all of these kids are Ligonier kids.  It's not like the coaches are recruiting from other schools, or we are a school that can pull kids in from all over the area.  We also don't have  kids coming to Ligonier to play with their AAU friends, like what goes on in high school basketball at private and public schools.  

Furthermore, these kids have worked their tails off, and the coaching staff, like them or hate them, have created a winning culture that kids want to be a part of.  We are also going through a phase, where we are blessed with some special athletes.  As many others have said, we haven't been this good for that long.  It has taken time for us to get this good.  When our string of great athletes ends, we might not be this good anymore, but we will still be solid because of the winning culture that has been created.  

I'm not sure why the Heritage would want rid of Ligonier.  It's not like we have won that many championships in football, or any other sport for that matter.  In order for your conference to be successful you need to have good teams.  If Ligonier wasn't in the conference, Homer never would have been tested last year.  I really don't think Homer beats Guilfoyle if they didn't have that game against Ligonier in the regular season.  Homer playing Ligonier in the regular season helped prepare them to be able to beat Guilfoyle.  In the Ligonier-Homer game last year Homer was shell shocked.  They would have been shell shocked by Guilfoyle too, if they hadn't already played a Guilfoyle caliber team in the regular season.    

[font="Lucida Grande", "Trebuchet MS", Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]"I don't think Homer beats Guilfoyle if they didn't have that game against Ligonier."   That's pretty laughable but if true, maybe Ligonier should follow the example and play schools at least their size or using that example play schools much larger.  By following that theory maybe they get to a state championship game, something they've never done.  Just shut up and play.  That's why HC gets the respect they deserve win or lose. They go about their business like many schools do and worry about their own.  You can't blame Glen Richards for looking out for his own student-athletes. [/font]

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Re: Saltsburg forfeit

Postby tubmill » September 15th, 2018, 4:10 pm

I wonder if Saltsburg will play their game against Penns Manor on Friday? According to Mark Bertig, of WCCS, Glenn Richards told him that the Trojans lost five players, due to injury, in their game last week. It is time for the BSSD school board to step up! They should require the Trojans to forfeit the remainder of their varsity games. If Glenn Richards, is truly concerned about the safety and welfare of his players, then he should agree with my assessment. It just isn’t fair to the remainder of the teams on Saltsburg’s schedule. Richards should at least give his team’s remaining opponents the courtesy of finding a team to replace Saltsburgh on their schedule.

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Re: Saltsburg forfeit

Postby Aiks19 » September 15th, 2018, 5:35 pm

tubmill wrote:I wonder if Saltsburg will play their game against Penns Manor on Friday? According to Mark Bertig, of WCCS, Glenn Richards told him that the Trojans lost five players, due to injury, in their game last week. It is time for the BSSD school board to step up! They should require the Trojans to forfeit the remainder of their varsity games. If Glenn Richards, is truly concerned about the safety and welfare of his players, then he should agree with my assessment. It just isn’t fair to the remainder of the teams on Saltsburg’s schedule. Richards should at least give his team’s remaining opponents the courtesy of finding a team to replace Saltsburgh on their schedule.

How would that work for playoff points? If a team were to find a replacement game? Do they still get points from the forfeit? Making the makeup game a gloried scrimmage. I was just wondering how that would work.


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