Marion Center at Chestnut Ridge

[Xylo]

I think the District 6 officials could fix this problem easily. Get rid of power points when you play a smaller school. For the AA programs that play one or two A schools, the effect would be minimal. For a program like Chesnut Ridge that feasts on A schools all year .... it would have a big impact.

They could still have their winning season and feel good and all that, but they wouldn't land that home playoff game as the reward anymore.

[ham55]

or make the variation in points greater per classification.

80 points for A
140 for AA
200 for AAA
260 for AAAA

[flakjacket]

ham,

You may just be onto something there. I like it. I'm sure it needs some tweaking, but it seems like a good start. And NO ONE would touch BC in points. (but they earn it)

makes you think....

[Xylo]

I think the power point solution would work fine. I don't think we want to punish a school to the point that they couldn't get in with an 8-1 record.

For example if CR lost all their power points over "A" competition they would certainly fall from the top four which would mean they wouldn't get to host a playoff game.

Under Ham's solution, they would probably rank below Westmont and PC which both ended up 6-3.

My goal/reason is a "AA" team shouldn't be able to host a "AA" playoff game when 7 of their 9 opponents are "A" schools. If they go 8-1 they should still get IN the playoffs.

For the past two years, the top 5 teams have been affected by this. Last year FH and BM had the 4/5 battle while the 3 seed lost to PO. This year Bedford and Bishop McCort ended up in the 4/5 battle again while the three seed lost.

Wouldn't this weekend's action be a little more exciting if McCort was playing Tyrone AND Bedford was at Forest Hills?

[fleaflicker]

Last year, the three seed WAS Phillipsburg and they won. It was the year before you are thinking of. Ham's solution is a bit extreme I think, as it would serve to keep Ridge out of the playoffs entirely, but perhaps that is his intent. I think something like 90-120-150-180 would work with 10 points per win, as the classification of competition gets more value. In other words, Bedford would get 200 points if they beat an 8 win Westmont team, but Ridge would get 150 points for beating a 6 win Northern Bedford team. Of course, one could take that down lower, where a AAA team would get 60 points for beating an A team, and State College would get 30, while the A team would get 210 for beating State College plus wins. But here's the problem with any system like that: What value does Bedford get out of beating a world beater Biship Carroll team? Should private schools of any classification have 30 points automatically added? Other than that, it would seem to work.

[ham55]

Tyrone
FH

Ridge would have had 1030 points.

Bedford would have had 1330.

Marion Center would have had 920.

Bishop McCort would have had 1280.

Westmont would have had 1080.

Penn Cambria would have had 1030.

1.Tyrone
2.FH
3.Bedford
4.Bishop McCort
5.Westmont
6.Chestnut Ridge (8-1 over 6-3 tiebreaker)
7.Penn Cambria
8.Marion Center

That would have been the district standings this year if my point system would have been used. Ridge being a 6th seed using that weak @$$ schedule they have would not be unjust. Infact, I think if most people picked the top 8, it would resemble something like that to begin with. 20 points differential is not nearly enough between the classes.

[flakjacket]

hmmm.... very good eye opener

send that (stuff) to D6 officials

[Gunner18]

how bout this..

regardless of what classification you are..

a win against your own classification is 100 pts (A vs A, AA vs AA...)

for every classification lower than you that you win, you subtract 20 points (AA vs A = 80 pts, AAA vs A = 60 pts,)

for every classification higher than you that you win, you add 20 points (A vs AA = 120 pts, A vs AAA = 140 pts)

[CRLionDawg]

Sacrificing academics for athletics does go on, no doubt. But that is hardly a legitimate excuse for sacrificing athletics. In most cases the money outlay isnt what is lacking to create a solid athletic program. What is lacking is a vision and adequate leadership to make it happen. The song and dance of making excuses to not do what is needed to provide an athletic development program is an emotional ploy made by people who really dont care about sports or are to lazy to do what it takes to be successful.

[ham55]

Gunner, you just rehashed the same dang system that's already in effect. AA teams who play to thier level would not get any benefit out of this at all. I realize that Ridge would suffer under this, but it would be too dang hard to keep track of. Greater variation in points from classification to classification would be really the only way to even the seeding playing field.