Virginia Tech has no chance?

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All these "experts", mainly Your Literary Hero, also stated a few times that the BCS unfortunately works itself out. I picked Miami to win, and rooted for them the whole game. I hate Virginia Tech. My stance for Tech being over Texas was always technical. They do play a tougher schedule. I don't rank teams based on heart, I think there's too much room for favoritism. At some point, strength of schedule needs to take a LARGE part in how teams are ranked. Tech lost, UCLA lost, and Texas beat a bad opponent. Now, lets say Alabama goes undefeated. They have a weaker schedule than Texas?
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Alabama will now probably lose because the BCS always seems to work itself out. It's a bunch of bull$h!t, but it always seems to work itself out. Now I'm going to hope that USC, Texas, and Alabama all lose, so we have a whole bunch of one loss teams vying for inclusion in the national title. Not gonna happen, but a man can dream. They won't ever have a playoff until there are 4 or more undefeated major conference teams at the end of the regular season and conference championship games (or perhaps 6 or 8 major BCS conference teams tied with one loss at the end of those games). Until then, they can put their hands over their ears and deny there's a problem. But when that happens, there will be no denial.
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If the BCS always works itself out, then what's the big problem with it?
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Hey, if PSU beats Michigan you would have been ONE step closer to your dream becoming reality.
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The problem with it is that it is an unfair proposition where no team, outside of the number 1 and 2 ranked teams in the preseason, have control over their own destiny as far as a national title is concerned. If USC and Texas win out, no matter if 5 other BCS conference teams win out, those two teams will be in the national title. Why? Because they had the advantage of being high up in the polls before a single down of football was played.
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My gripe is that kids at BYU and Toledo have no chance to win the national title. So why even play? They probably would not beat USC or Miami or OU, but there's potential for upsets. How would all these high school kids like it if FH and Tyrone were automatically given the title game? What's the point of even playing?
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Why play at Waynesburg then?
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Waynesburg, with a playoff, has a shot at the national title if they win the games they need to win. They control their own fate because if they win their conference, they get into the playoffs. If they win throughout the playoffs, they win the national title.

Why is it that Division III, Division II, and Division I-AA schools have all adopted playoffs AND maintained their rigorous academic expectations, while Division I-A, which is not as concerned with academics as many of those schools, complains that a playoff would interfere with academics? How ironic.
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"If USC and Texas win out, no matter if 5 other BCS conference teams win out, those two teams will be in the national title."

There's only one other undefeated team besides those two, and they will lose before the season is over. If you lose one game, you normally don't make it to the championship game. So who cares if they win out? They lost. They shouldn't be in the championship game over and undefeated Texas or USC team.
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That was a done deal at the beginning of the season though. There is no use in any other team hoping for a national title if those two teams at the top of the preseason polls win out. And you are too dense to see that?

Yes, there is only one other undefeated team right now. But what you're missing is that it makes very little difference. No matter who goes undefeated, if they don't play either USC or Texas, they have absolutely no control over whether or not they play in the national title. None. So what you have to do to get to the national title is go undefeated AND make sacrifices to the football gods so that maybe, just maybe, one of the top two teams will lose so that you can have a spot. Other than that, you are screwed. That is what you are missing.

So based on that information, is the BCS a fair system? No, it is not. And you are one stupid and dense person if you think it is.
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