Lets rip on the officials alittle bit.
Lets rip on the officials alittle bit.
Lets try a new one lets bash the officials alittle and give our favorite wipping boys a rest for a bit.
First I wasn't at the Windber - Tussey game, just saw the high lites on the sports. Did anyone else catch the channel 10 coverage? On Tussey's touchdown drive, a running play that started around the 2 or 3 yd line the running back goes over the right side and there are a couple of players down on the ground he hits these guys rolls over top of them into the endzone never touching the ground. Touchdown right? Guess again the ref comes running in shaking his head and marks him down around the 1. Now maybe I'm wrong cause I know highschool rules are different from college and Pro, but I thought you weren't down it you were on top of another player or players.
Second, how about the 12 men on the field fiasco at the FH - McCort game? FH has the ball first and goal just inside the 10, they run and gain maybe a yard. Both teams go back to the huddle and the FH fans start screaming that McCort has 12 guys on the field. The Rangers break the huddle and heading to the line for 2nd down and the Crushers come out of their huddle when one of the boys in stripes finally got to his toes to be able to count to 12 and out comes the flag. They darn near ran 2 plays with 12 on the field.
First I wasn't at the Windber - Tussey game, just saw the high lites on the sports. Did anyone else catch the channel 10 coverage? On Tussey's touchdown drive, a running play that started around the 2 or 3 yd line the running back goes over the right side and there are a couple of players down on the ground he hits these guys rolls over top of them into the endzone never touching the ground. Touchdown right? Guess again the ref comes running in shaking his head and marks him down around the 1. Now maybe I'm wrong cause I know highschool rules are different from college and Pro, but I thought you weren't down it you were on top of another player or players.
Second, how about the 12 men on the field fiasco at the FH - McCort game? FH has the ball first and goal just inside the 10, they run and gain maybe a yard. Both teams go back to the huddle and the FH fans start screaming that McCort has 12 guys on the field. The Rangers break the huddle and heading to the line for 2nd down and the Crushers come out of their huddle when one of the boys in stripes finally got to his toes to be able to count to 12 and out comes the flag. They darn near ran 2 plays with 12 on the field.
Re: Lets rip on the officials alittle bit.
First Old sport lets not rip on the officials unless you can do a better job. The PIAA is always looking for more quality people. All it takes is a willingness to start in June to physically get ready for the season, know the rules which takes many hours of reading and studying, and get very low pay for the hours involved. You then need to buy (at least for football a minimum of $200.00 of equipment) get to the game 1 1/2 hours before kickoff (which means with travel you are leaving at 4:00 for a 7:00 kickoff) and listen to fans, players and coaches rip on you for your efforts.
Now for your questions, a runner is considered down in NFHS football 1 of 3 ways. (1) Any part of a player other than his hands or feet who is possession of the ball touches the ground. (2) If a player who is possession of the ball touches the sideline he is considered down. (3) If a player who is in possession of the ball has his forward progress or momentum stopped he is considered down. So if the officials ruled his momentum stopped even though he never touched the ground they were correct in ruling him down. As in most things this was a judgement call.
Now for the Forest Hills/BM game. Yes the officials missed the play with 12 men on the field. However they called a very good game. So if this is the only play that you want to whine about find a different reason to criticize these guys. It was a well played and well officiated game, when you are ready to put on the stripes post on the board and I will make sure that you get the application. Untill you are ready to take the plunge, let the guys who are actually doing something work in peace.
Now for your questions, a runner is considered down in NFHS football 1 of 3 ways. (1) Any part of a player other than his hands or feet who is possession of the ball touches the ground. (2) If a player who is possession of the ball touches the sideline he is considered down. (3) If a player who is in possession of the ball has his forward progress or momentum stopped he is considered down. So if the officials ruled his momentum stopped even though he never touched the ground they were correct in ruling him down. As in most things this was a judgement call.
Now for the Forest Hills/BM game. Yes the officials missed the play with 12 men on the field. However they called a very good game. So if this is the only play that you want to whine about find a different reason to criticize these guys. It was a well played and well officiated game, when you are ready to put on the stripes post on the board and I will make sure that you get the application. Untill you are ready to take the plunge, let the guys who are actually doing something work in peace.
First I have worn the stripes before second I never said I could do a better job, third if you put those stripes on and think you are never gonna get yelled at or criticised you are a complete and total idiot. [quote="seetjrun";p="111463"] The PIAA is always looking for more quality people.[/quote]
The key word in your sentence is quality people, heck if you can read and pass a test you can become an official they don't give a rat's butt about quality.[quote="seetjrun";p="111463"]
Now for your questions, a runner is considered down in NFHS football 1 of 3 ways. (1) Any part of a player other than his hands or feet who is possession of the ball touches the ground. (2) If a player who is possession of the ball touches the sideline he is considered down. (3) If a player who is in possession of the ball has his forward progress or momentum stopped he is considered down. So if the officials ruled his momentum stopped even though he never touched the ground they were correct in ruling him down. As in most things this was a judgement call.[/quote]
On the replay I saw which was right there in the endzone a great view of the play the answer is (1) NO,(2) NO,(3) NO so conclusion bad judgement.
I will agree with you that the FH - McCort game was well officiated but unfortuately it only takes one bad call to ruin a game for the boys in stripes. And had it been a judgement call that would have been one thing but something as simple as counting how many players are on the field come on.
The key word in your sentence is quality people, heck if you can read and pass a test you can become an official they don't give a rat's butt about quality.[quote="seetjrun";p="111463"]
Now for your questions, a runner is considered down in NFHS football 1 of 3 ways. (1) Any part of a player other than his hands or feet who is possession of the ball touches the ground. (2) If a player who is possession of the ball touches the sideline he is considered down. (3) If a player who is in possession of the ball has his forward progress or momentum stopped he is considered down. So if the officials ruled his momentum stopped even though he never touched the ground they were correct in ruling him down. As in most things this was a judgement call.[/quote]
On the replay I saw which was right there in the endzone a great view of the play the answer is (1) NO,(2) NO,(3) NO so conclusion bad judgement.
I will agree with you that the FH - McCort game was well officiated but unfortuately it only takes one bad call to ruin a game for the boys in stripes. And had it been a judgement call that would have been one thing but something as simple as counting how many players are on the field come on.
Well Old Sport if you wore stripes before and no longer wear them then one of three things happened.
1) You say if you can read and pass a test you can become an official, that is true but if that is all they do and don't improve, they don't advance up the ladder and usually leave. Is that why you don't do it anymore?
2) The other reason officials usually leave is they aren't that good and cry politics. They can't accept the fact that they just don't have it and that politics is the reason they don't get the big game or the playoffs.
3) you really are old and can't do it anymore or you never could do it to start with.
So as I said before if you can do a better job, rejoin the ranks. As the Marines say, we are looking for a few good men.
1) You say if you can read and pass a test you can become an official, that is true but if that is all they do and don't improve, they don't advance up the ladder and usually leave. Is that why you don't do it anymore?
2) The other reason officials usually leave is they aren't that good and cry politics. They can't accept the fact that they just don't have it and that politics is the reason they don't get the big game or the playoffs.
3) you really are old and can't do it anymore or you never could do it to start with.
So as I said before if you can do a better job, rejoin the ranks. As the Marines say, we are looking for a few good men.
How many times does he have to tell you that he never once said he could do a better job?
His family was the main reason for him getting out of refing. He had two boys, 3 years apart, that had started to get into minor league baseball and flag football. He coached both of them and then wanted to be assured of seeing them throughout junior high and varsity(one is still in the varsity programs). Age and job had alot to do with it as well, but he has his priorities straight; family first. Are you going to criticize a man for wanting to watch his kids in the sports they play?
I guess that didn't fit in your little 'scenario' about why officials get out of it.
Open mouth. Insert foot.
His family was the main reason for him getting out of refing. He had two boys, 3 years apart, that had started to get into minor league baseball and flag football. He coached both of them and then wanted to be assured of seeing them throughout junior high and varsity(one is still in the varsity programs). Age and job had alot to do with it as well, but he has his priorities straight; family first. Are you going to criticize a man for wanting to watch his kids in the sports they play?
I guess that didn't fit in your little 'scenario' about why officials get out of it.
Open mouth. Insert foot.