ACC should lose their BCS bid

[fleaflicker]

I feel kind of cheated that Penn State is playing a four loss Florida State team. If we win, and move up to number 2, people will say, "Well of course they won, they were playing a four loss team." And it would look horrible for PSU if they lost.

I think they should set a guideline that no team can get into the BCS with 4 or more losses, if not 3 or more losses. That means the ACC would get their automatic bid, but it would go to Miami instead of Florida State, or if the ACC would eliminate the title game (since it's not for a BCS berth), then VT would have gotten the bid. It's kind of the same with the Big 12. There is no way they should have had a title game between an undefeated Texas team and a 7-4 Colorado team that Texas had already blown out. That wasn't the Big 12 Championship, it was the Big 12 Blowout.

[The Ancient Enemy]

Conference title games are pointless if the teams already met. FSU did what they had to do to get to that game, and they WON. Notice how there's no discussion from the Penn State fans as to how the ACC really IS a tough conference. They beat Miami, Tech, and Boston College. Florida is an OOC game, just like Texas was for Ohio State. Florida State did what they had to do to get to the title game: beat Boston College. It doesn't matter what their record was. They satisfied the requirements to get into the title game, which they WON. Florida State can beat any team in the country when they want to actually apply themselves. Remember that this team accepts kids who are great athletes but not great in the classroom. These kids play when they want to play. Is it any more apparent? There's NO discussion of ACC toughness, or FSU's depth, which I guarantee you is as good as USC's. Look at the big picture instead of the 6 inches in front of your face.

[dragonfanz]

You people kill me. I guess Florida State has a switch inside their locker to determine how they are going to play on a given day. We are talking about a team that lost to 3 unranked teams. I can understand getting knocked off every now and then to an unranked opponent but to lose 3 games to unranked teams shows us that Florida State isn't that good. That shows football minded people that something is missing in their program from day one of this season. It doesn't come down to "which FSU team shows up" it just comes down to the fact that they aren't as dominating as they were in the past. And to discuss how they dominated a great Virginia Tech team, go back and do some research on VT's record in the month of November since the 2000 season. When the played in the Big East the conference sucked but once they left they may have been one of the most overrated teams in the country. And actually I love this draw because PSU has really nothing to gain by playing FSU because the Seminoles will be heavy underdogs so PSU should win and if they don't it will be devasting. By the way, the Big East has 2 pretty good teams out of 8 which is a much better percentage of quality teams as the Big 12. We all know that Texas is great and Texas Tech is good but what comes after that. This just shows how badly college football needs a playoff system that takes the top 32 teams in the country and plays five weeks of playoffs that would conclude in early January.

[The Ancient Enemy]

Florida State beat the 3 best teams on their schedule and the Penn State fans are saying the game is over already.

[frostlion]

Not me. I think PSU will beat FSU but not the blowout that some are saying. All depends on which FSU O-line shows up...if the one that did against V. Tech, it will go four quarters, if the one that did against Florida, then Tony Hunt will have 200 yards rushing by the end of the 3rd.

[BisonBlue07]

I 100% agree with a playoff, but a 32 team playoff there dragonfanz, calm down there a little bit. That would be more teams than any of the other playoffs in the divisions of college football. 16 teams would work, while 8 would do the job best in my opinion. The top 8 could play to find out who is the real national champ, which would essentially be the BCS games and the other bowls could still be played. The money could still be divided evenly among the top 8 like it is with the system today, (because everyone knows it's all about the great american greenback) and the 4 BCS games could be the host of the 1st round of the playoff and then 3 more sites could be chosen for the final 3 games. Or the system could be vice versa where 3 BCS game sites would host the semi's and finals, while the 4th would rotate every year to the #1 ranked teams 1st round game and 3 other sites could host the other 1st round games, maybe make them homegames for the highest ranked conference or highest ranked team. That would work, at least I think it would anyhow......Anything would be better then the B c S system that is in place now.

[fleaflicker]

That is true, TAE, but I still don't like the draw. Florida State may have beaten the three best teams on their slate, but Penn State still has nothing to gain by beating them, and everything to lose, as dragonfanz observed.

However, dragonfanz, both Texas and Texas Tech could beat the Big East's top team, and Oklahoma could probably do it too. Just a heads up.

[The Ancient Enemy]

They have nothing to gain? How about a BCS win? Joe Paterno vs. Bobby Bowden? A potential loss to a 4 loss team? LOI day isn't until February either, Flea.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Cry Little Lion Fans, Cry. Go NOLES!!

[abpk2903]

Bobby Bowden is losing it his teams 10 years ago would not have a "switch" on rather or not they are going to play that game or not. Or maybe Flordia State and Flordia are starting to lose prospects to South Flordia and Central Flordia.