First of the "Big 4" promoted
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Crimson09Crazy
First of the "Big 4" promoted
Steve Pearce turned his ankle last night. And the Pirates have brought up one of the so called "Big 4"
Neil Walker the Pine-Richland product has been called up and will see his first extensive meaningful stint in the Bigs.
A former 1st round pick, He never really panned out. He came in as a Catcher, but the organization saw him more as an Infielder, and his new position became 3B. Now in his 6th season as a Minor Leaguer he had to find more ways to get on the field. He plays LF and 2B as well as 3B. He is definitely going to get his AB's up here. He is the least heralded of the top prospects behind, Alvarez,Lincoln,and Tabata. But he is a former 1st round pick a "Pittsburgh kid", and still only 24 years old. He was easily the best player on AAA Indy so far. He was hitting 330ish with about 6 Homers a ton of doubles and 30+ RBI's. Would have been called upearlier, but due to lack of hustle Pearce was chosen instead. I hope thats not a concern once he gets to the 'Burgh. Hopefully he makes a big splash and dominoes fall after him.
My Hopeful Lineup in a Month.
1.Tabata RF
2.LaRoche 2B
3.McCutchen CF
4.Jones 1B
5.Alvarez 3B
6.Doumit C
7. Milledge LF
8.Cedeno SS
Bench
Walker
Pearce
Jaramillo
Church
D.Young
Rotation
Duke
Maholm
Ohlendorf
Lincoln
Karstens
and Hopefully Meek replaces Dotel at Closer.
I think the Bucs farm system is improving and that is only going to make the Pirates better.
The Big 4 is knocking at the door. But further down the line in Altoona and High A Bradenten the Prospects are still shining.
10 other guys to keep an eye on down on the farm.....
AAA SS Argenis Diaz. Pickup from the Adam LaRoche to Boston deal. only 23 weak bat but strong defender. Cant be too far behind Ronny Cedeno.
AA 3B Josh Harris. Only 22. Lacks power and isnt very big but has a real good average. Got him from the Cubs from the Grabow deal.
AA LH SP. Rudy Owens 22. Home grown farmhand. He was absolutely dominant last year in High A. Doing a nice job for Curve. 3-2 with a 3.35 ERA. Maybe will get the call to AAA when Lincoln joins the Bucs.
AA LH RP. Danny Moskos. Yess the guy we drafted over Orioles current Catcher Matt Wieters. haha great pick Littlefield. But hey he is a shut down closer this year in Altoona 1-0 10 saves and an under 2 ERA. I'm sure he'll be moving up the latter soon
AA RH SP Bryan Morris. through 8 starts in A and one in Altoona he is 4-0 with a 0.72 ERA. Dominant. The gem of the deal from the JBay trade. I'd like to see him in the Burgh soon.
A CF.Starling Marte 21 from the Dominican. The Pirates are really really high on this guy. He's currently on the shelf for a few months,but considered a "5 tool" prospect.
A SS Brock Holt 21 out of Baseball factory Rice. Hitting the cover off the ball at a .329 clip.
A C Tony Sanchez 22. Little criticism for the Pirates for drafting this guy in the top 5. But he has surprised a lot of people and he may make it easier for the Pirates to trade Doumit depending on how he develops. Having a pretty season offensively.
A LH SP 22. Jeff Locke. Well Atlanta got McLouth whose barely hitting .200. We got Morton who is the worst starter in the Bigs and a AA OF who is doing nothing. Looks like Locke is the only good player from the deal 5-2 with a 2.72 ERA. Hey not bad if you ask me.
A RH SP 22. Nathan Adcock. Got him in the Jack Wilson to Seattle deal. He also is another dominant Pitcher in the Pirates High A team.. 5-2 with a 2.50 ERA.
I like our younger pitchers, I think Sanchez is going to be a good player. And we got the 2nd pick in this years draft.....Maybe the Nats wont take Bryce Harper.....
Neil Walker the Pine-Richland product has been called up and will see his first extensive meaningful stint in the Bigs.
A former 1st round pick, He never really panned out. He came in as a Catcher, but the organization saw him more as an Infielder, and his new position became 3B. Now in his 6th season as a Minor Leaguer he had to find more ways to get on the field. He plays LF and 2B as well as 3B. He is definitely going to get his AB's up here. He is the least heralded of the top prospects behind, Alvarez,Lincoln,and Tabata. But he is a former 1st round pick a "Pittsburgh kid", and still only 24 years old. He was easily the best player on AAA Indy so far. He was hitting 330ish with about 6 Homers a ton of doubles and 30+ RBI's. Would have been called upearlier, but due to lack of hustle Pearce was chosen instead. I hope thats not a concern once he gets to the 'Burgh. Hopefully he makes a big splash and dominoes fall after him.
My Hopeful Lineup in a Month.
1.Tabata RF
2.LaRoche 2B
3.McCutchen CF
4.Jones 1B
5.Alvarez 3B
6.Doumit C
7. Milledge LF
8.Cedeno SS
Bench
Walker
Pearce
Jaramillo
Church
D.Young
Rotation
Duke
Maholm
Ohlendorf
Lincoln
Karstens
and Hopefully Meek replaces Dotel at Closer.
I think the Bucs farm system is improving and that is only going to make the Pirates better.
The Big 4 is knocking at the door. But further down the line in Altoona and High A Bradenten the Prospects are still shining.
10 other guys to keep an eye on down on the farm.....
AAA SS Argenis Diaz. Pickup from the Adam LaRoche to Boston deal. only 23 weak bat but strong defender. Cant be too far behind Ronny Cedeno.
AA 3B Josh Harris. Only 22. Lacks power and isnt very big but has a real good average. Got him from the Cubs from the Grabow deal.
AA LH SP. Rudy Owens 22. Home grown farmhand. He was absolutely dominant last year in High A. Doing a nice job for Curve. 3-2 with a 3.35 ERA. Maybe will get the call to AAA when Lincoln joins the Bucs.
AA LH RP. Danny Moskos. Yess the guy we drafted over Orioles current Catcher Matt Wieters. haha great pick Littlefield. But hey he is a shut down closer this year in Altoona 1-0 10 saves and an under 2 ERA. I'm sure he'll be moving up the latter soon
AA RH SP Bryan Morris. through 8 starts in A and one in Altoona he is 4-0 with a 0.72 ERA. Dominant. The gem of the deal from the JBay trade. I'd like to see him in the Burgh soon.
A CF.Starling Marte 21 from the Dominican. The Pirates are really really high on this guy. He's currently on the shelf for a few months,but considered a "5 tool" prospect.
A SS Brock Holt 21 out of Baseball factory Rice. Hitting the cover off the ball at a .329 clip.
A C Tony Sanchez 22. Little criticism for the Pirates for drafting this guy in the top 5. But he has surprised a lot of people and he may make it easier for the Pirates to trade Doumit depending on how he develops. Having a pretty season offensively.
A LH SP 22. Jeff Locke. Well Atlanta got McLouth whose barely hitting .200. We got Morton who is the worst starter in the Bigs and a AA OF who is doing nothing. Looks like Locke is the only good player from the deal 5-2 with a 2.72 ERA. Hey not bad if you ask me.
A RH SP 22. Nathan Adcock. Got him in the Jack Wilson to Seattle deal. He also is another dominant Pitcher in the Pirates High A team.. 5-2 with a 2.50 ERA.
I like our younger pitchers, I think Sanchez is going to be a good player. And we got the 2nd pick in this years draft.....Maybe the Nats wont take Bryce Harper.....
Last edited by Crimson09Crazy on September 20th, 2011, 12:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
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westmonster
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Re: First of the "Big 4" promoted
This is the first year in a long time where I can say that the I honestly believe the Pirates have the tools to win, and no excuses not to win.
Their rotation has been solid. The only weak link is Charlie Morton, who was never made out by anyone I know to be any kind of good baseball player. They've been getting good performances from Duke, Maholm, and hopefully Ohlendorf can regain his previous form. Karstens looks like he may actually be able to pitch this year. Burress is generally looked down on, but I have seen good stuff from him, and in the majority of his starts he has put the team in a position to win.
McCutchen, Milledge, Jones, Doumit, Laroche, and Church have proven that they can hit the baseball with some predictability. These men aside, it blows my mind how Clement plays first base as much as he does. He has shown no real hitting potential, just a few towering home runs. A few singles and a few less strikeouts would be nice. Iwamura is a typical Pirates bust, I would much rather see Delwyn Young or Crosby although niether of those two are very impressive. With Alvarez coming up, I agree placing him in right field is the best move. That would put Jones at first, and maybe Walker can show some productivity at third. Maybe move Laroche to shortstop, bumping out Cedeno's weak bat.
No success this year will be a true dissappointment, and there are many years when failure was expected.
Their rotation has been solid. The only weak link is Charlie Morton, who was never made out by anyone I know to be any kind of good baseball player. They've been getting good performances from Duke, Maholm, and hopefully Ohlendorf can regain his previous form. Karstens looks like he may actually be able to pitch this year. Burress is generally looked down on, but I have seen good stuff from him, and in the majority of his starts he has put the team in a position to win.
McCutchen, Milledge, Jones, Doumit, Laroche, and Church have proven that they can hit the baseball with some predictability. These men aside, it blows my mind how Clement plays first base as much as he does. He has shown no real hitting potential, just a few towering home runs. A few singles and a few less strikeouts would be nice. Iwamura is a typical Pirates bust, I would much rather see Delwyn Young or Crosby although niether of those two are very impressive. With Alvarez coming up, I agree placing him in right field is the best move. That would put Jones at first, and maybe Walker can show some productivity at third. Maybe move Laroche to shortstop, bumping out Cedeno's weak bat.
No success this year will be a true dissappointment, and there are many years when failure was expected.
Last edited by westmonster on September 20th, 2011, 12:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
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deliverance
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Re: First of the "Big 4" promoted
I can't wait until Coach reads that. He may have a heart attack.Their rotation has been solid. The only weak link is Charlie Morton, who was never made out by anyone I know to be any kind of good baseball player.
Last edited by deliverance on September 20th, 2011, 12:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Crimson09Crazy
Re: First of the "Big 4" promoted
First off Alvarez is the third basemen....no chance of ever seeing him in Right.
LaRoche at Short? Please he has nooooo range. 2nd base is a real big challenge for him.
Milledge a proven hitter? hardly, he might be the 3rd starter to go after Iwamura and Clement.
Church ehh he's a bench player at best
Our rotation has been solid?! Do we watch the same Pirates? We have no guy with an ERA less then 4. Maholm and Duke are so inconsistent. Ohlendorf is probably a bust, and Morton is the worst statistical starter in the National League!!! Burres throws 85 MPH and Karstens is good for about one descent start a month.
LaRoche at Short? Please he has nooooo range. 2nd base is a real big challenge for him.
Milledge a proven hitter? hardly, he might be the 3rd starter to go after Iwamura and Clement.
Church ehh he's a bench player at best
Our rotation has been solid?! Do we watch the same Pirates? We have no guy with an ERA less then 4. Maholm and Duke are so inconsistent. Ohlendorf is probably a bust, and Morton is the worst statistical starter in the National League!!! Burres throws 85 MPH and Karstens is good for about one descent start a month.
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The Ancient Enemy
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Re: First of the "Big 4" promoted
Which one of you is right? I get all my Pirates info from you guys!
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Re: First of the "Big 4" promoted
ME! I get a lot of stuff i know from Bucsdugout.com. Its informative and usually they tell it how it is. Check it out sometime
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Re: First of the "Big 4" promoted
I agree with Crimson. I believe the Westmonster is Bob Nutting!
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TAE check out http://www.buccofans.com for any Pirates info this guy has it all from draft thru minors to bucs