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Really? Tussey scored first on North Catholic last year.
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2008
Clairton 12 Monaca 6
Clairton 26 Windber 0
Clairton 24 Farrell 21

2009
Clairton 14 Rochester 13
Clairton 46 CT 0
Clairton 13 Farrell 7

2010
Clairton 12 Rochester 0
Clairton 52 North Star 0
Clairton 48 Farrell 0

2011
Clairton 42 Sto Rox 6
Clairton 44 North Star 0
Clairton 30 Sharpsville 0

2012
Clairton 58 Sto Rox 21
Clairton 53 Berlin 0
Clairton ? Port Allegheny ?


So on the Run of Clairton over the last five years, they have won D7 138-46
they have destroyed District 5 ------------------------------------- 221 - 0,
( the best team out of D5 has not scored a single point on Clairton in 5 years and given up an average of 44 points per game.)
The 9/10 winner against Clairton has been outscored 115 -44 in the western final over the last 4 years

Whoops forgot about Tussey last year but please explain the previous 5 years
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Tussey Mountain scored 117 points in its previous three playoff games but mounted just 66 yards over its final nine drives against NC

Yes tell me more about how well Tussey did.
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GAU984 wrote:WPIAL really gets shafted in the PIAA bracket. In A and AA the WPIAL championship should be the state quartefinal. Instead in A the champion of over 30 teams meets the District 5 champion of nine teams.
You may think the WPIAL got 'shafted', but it was their own doing.

In the older time, the WPIAL champion automatically got placed into the Western Final in all four classifications. When the Philadelphia schools joined the PIAA, it skewed the enrollment numbers down for a lot of schools, which made the WPIAL have many more 1A and 2A schools than 3A and 4A. The PIAA then adjusted the tournament and moved the WPIAL to enter in the quarterfinal round for 3A and 4A. The PIAA refused this change, as they wanted all four WPIAL championships to be played at Heinz Field on the same day on the same week. If the WPIAL champion in 3A and 4A entered the PIAA tournament in the quarterfinals and the 1A and 2A champions to enter the PIAA tournament in the semifinals, that would mean the four-games at Heinz Field wouldn't happen (Steelers refused to let the games be staged on more than one day).

So, as a compromise, to themselves, the WPIAL had their 1A and 2A champions enter into the quarterfinals, as well. Which creates that rather large imbalance.

But, it's their fault.

The four games at Heinz Field is also the reason the PIAA is unable to go to six classifications. Can't play all six at Heinz Field (Steelers will only allow four games max, all in one day), and the WPIAL refuses to schedule the championship games at more than one venue because of TV and the games being at Heinz.
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youngbuck wrote:Tussey Mountain scored 117 points in its previous three playoff games but mounted just 66 yards over its final nine drives against NC

Yes tell me more about how well Tussey did.
7 points better? It's not like that score was in garbage time, it was the first score of the game. And if you stat is correct that means Tussey had 111 yards of offense in the first quarter. Sure Tussey lost to the state champs, but for a tiny school in the middle of central PA, it was an accomplishment just to get there, not to mention that they hung with the eventually state champs for a quarter.
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WPIALD7 wrote:
TAHS92Alum wrote:I never understand the seeding in the WPIAL, where each division has a certain number of qualifiers and weights. A 12 seed shouldn't have a better record than a 6 or 7. Just doesn't seem right :)
The top 2 finishers from the 4 divisions in A and AA get home games and a top 8 seed.

McGuffey kind of got boned and I'd guess it has to do with the coach being a racist bigot. The kids probably deserved the #9 or #10 seed and certainly not to draw the best 2nd place team, Seton-LaSalle, but their coach ran his mouth last week about the Washington players at a bonfire.

Mapletown is lucky they got the #12, they probably should be the #14 or #15. Riverside, GCC, and Char-Houston would all beat the Maples. They will get blown out by Avonworth tomorrow.

In AAA and AAAA, the top 2 seeds in each conference get a home game and 2 3rd place teams also do. This is based on record for the 2 3rd place teams or 7-2 Altoona wouldnt of got a home game. They will lose to Bethel Park on Friday.

There is a lot of difference in the strength of the conferences, each level other than AAA has a very weak conference.

In A it is the Tri-County, dont be shocked if 9-0 Beth-Center loses, but this may be the year the conference finally gets a playoff win.

In AA, it is the Allegheny Conference, although with new additions Highlands and Apollo-Ridge they seem to be a lot better and the conference will likely get a playoff win or two for the first time in a few years.

In AAAA, it is the Foothills.

In AAA and AAAA, the top 5 teams get in each of the 3 conferences and 1 6th place Wild Card. In AAA,the Wild Card is 4-5 Knoch, in AAAA it is 3-6 Connelsville. Knoch got the #14 seed in AAA and Connelsville is the #16 in AAAA

In A and AA it is easy, the top 4 in each of the 4 conferences get in to the playoffs.
Nice call on the Altoona-BP game WPIAL7. Altoona was much more physical and they decisively beat BP on the line of scrimmage.

Lesson learned: Playing in a perceived "stronger" conference doesn't guarantee wins. Just ask Penn Hills and Lebo too. However, I'd stay away from asking Jeff Metheny who showed a blatant lack of respect to Altoona by going for it on 4th and 1 from his own 35 early inthe 3rd quarter in a tie game. Altoona scored a few plays later. You reap what you sow.
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I'm happily surprised to see both Indiana and altoona winning their playoff games Tonight! Was really surprised Indiana won by so much
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Indiana has some very good athletes
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Indiana has had some good athletes in recent years.
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Thanks, I wasn't aware of that. I'm still in favor of a better organized for sports that don't do a proportional bracket. Its chaos, some teams got a week off in the middle of playoffs! I would form four regions for each class, sixteen playoffs teams per region.
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GAU984 wrote:WPIAL really gets shafted in the PIAA bracket. In A and AA the WPIAL championship should be the state quartefinal. Instead in A the champion of over 30 teams meets the District 5 champion of nine teams.
You may think the WPIAL got 'shafted', but it was their own doing.

In the older time, the WPIAL champion automatically got placed into the Western Final in all four classifications. When the Philadelphia schools joined the PIAA, it skewed the enrollment numbers down for a lot of schools, which made the WPIAL have many more 1A and 2A schools than 3A and 4A. The PIAA then adjusted the tournament and moved the WPIAL to enter in the quarterfinal round for 3A and 4A. The PIAA refused this change, as they wanted all four WPIAL championships to be played at Heinz Field on the same day on the same week. If the WPIAL champion in 3A and 4A entered the PIAA tournament in the quarterfinals and the 1A and 2A champions to enter the PIAA tournament in the semifinals, that would mean the four-games at Heinz Field wouldn't happen (Steelers refused to let the games be staged on more than one day).

So, as a compromise, to themselves, the WPIAL had their 1A and 2A champions enter into the quarterfinals, as well. Which creates that rather large imbalance.

But, it's their fault.

The four games at Heinz Field is also the reason the PIAA is unable to go to six classifications. Can't play all six at Heinz Field (Steelers will only allow four games max, all in one day), and the WPIAL refuses to schedule the championship games at more than one venue because of TV and the games being at Heinz.
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