Bedford @ Central Cambria
Re: Bedford @ Central Cambria
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-Although the Bedford defense played well, I really think the CC and Bedford offenses were only stopped when they stopped themselves.
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This is one area where I have to disagree with you Jozey22, CC's running game was shut down beyond the 1st quarter and some of the 2nd, away from Mesaros' 20 yard scamper. Bedfords defense did on friday night what they have been doing all year, stepping up and stopping people when they have needed too. In the game against FH, the Rangers drove the ball right down the field the first two times and put up 14 points. What did Bedford do, the stepped up and allowed only one more score the entire game. Central Cambria romped down the field with what seemed like relative ease the first drive, the punted a couple of times, then scored again. what was the score, 14-0 CC. Bedfords defense did again what it had to do. Bedford went ahead 15-14 then CC battled back, got another touchdown and thats all she wrote for the offense. What signifies a great defense? Being able to stop teams in pressure situations. Bedford turned the ball over close to 5 times on Friday night and still with that in mind only gave up 3 scores to the dominate CC offensive machine. How many turnovers did CC have, 0. Central Cambria did all the right things to win this ball game on friday night, but when Bedfords defense needed to step up and make some big time plays, they did. That has been the story all year. 22 points is the most the D has given up all year, and I believe that is the most that they will give up for the rest of the regular season.
Bedford's offense stopped themselve's with turnovers and penalties, Bedford's DEFENSE stopped Central Cambria's offense...
-Although the Bedford defense played well, I really think the CC and Bedford offenses were only stopped when they stopped themselves.
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This is one area where I have to disagree with you Jozey22, CC's running game was shut down beyond the 1st quarter and some of the 2nd, away from Mesaros' 20 yard scamper. Bedfords defense did on friday night what they have been doing all year, stepping up and stopping people when they have needed too. In the game against FH, the Rangers drove the ball right down the field the first two times and put up 14 points. What did Bedford do, the stepped up and allowed only one more score the entire game. Central Cambria romped down the field with what seemed like relative ease the first drive, the punted a couple of times, then scored again. what was the score, 14-0 CC. Bedfords defense did again what it had to do. Bedford went ahead 15-14 then CC battled back, got another touchdown and thats all she wrote for the offense. What signifies a great defense? Being able to stop teams in pressure situations. Bedford turned the ball over close to 5 times on Friday night and still with that in mind only gave up 3 scores to the dominate CC offensive machine. How many turnovers did CC have, 0. Central Cambria did all the right things to win this ball game on friday night, but when Bedfords defense needed to step up and make some big time plays, they did. That has been the story all year. 22 points is the most the D has given up all year, and I believe that is the most that they will give up for the rest of the regular season.
Bedford's offense stopped themselve's with turnovers and penalties, Bedford's DEFENSE stopped Central Cambria's offense...
Re: Bedford @ Central Cambria
Could the reason the running game was stopped halfway through the second quarter be that, it was at that point that Ryan Krull went down with an ankle injury?
And has anyone ever heard of an illegal substitution?
And has anyone ever heard of an illegal substitution?
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Re: Bedford @ Central Cambria
You are going to try to blame the lose on an illegal substitution
When did Krull go down? Cause the bison defense stood tall after that first drive. The second touchdown was basically scored on defense
When did Krull go down? Cause the bison defense stood tall after that first drive. The second touchdown was basically scored on defense
Root, Root, Root for the home team
Re: Bedford @ Central Cambria
In the NFL, an illegal substitution is when you have 12 guys in the huddle, and when the huddle breaks, one guy runs off the field. It used to be done to confuse defenses. Not sure about the high school rules though.
Its the same rule in highschool, but when that 12th guy hasn't gone past the hash, then there is not a problem. Lucky for Bedford, this was the case. Injuries happen, Mike Young went out for a while as did Troy Harris, but you know what, that is one aspect of the game that can not be controled. It's not our fault your guys have Shane Fox disease sports999
By the way, good decision to not take the holding penalty that would have forced a 50 yard field goal instead of the game winning 40...
By the way, good decision to not take the holding penalty that would have forced a 50 yard field goal instead of the game winning 40...
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Re: Bedford @ Central Cambria
Great game with Bedford/CC this past Friday. Lots of emotion displayed by both teams. The speed and elusiveness of the Bison trio along with the Bison line winning the battle of the line of scrimmage in the second half was the difference.
Kudos to Kyler Ford. A clutch kick from 40 yds. even though it didn't seem like he got all of the ball on that particular attempt. The allegations that he can hit it from 50 plus are accurate as demonstrated by some of the rocket kickoffs. I would assume if he continues to progress with his accuracy, he will get some attention by the college ranks by this time next year.
Troy Harris is so exciting to watch. I would hate to coach against him. His vision is tremendous and his cutback ability is uncanny. Durability will be an issue with him. How much pounding can he take? But, the more he handles the ball, along with Derrick, the better the chances for the Bisons to score.
The outcome/pace of the game may have been quite different if Mr. Krull were not to be injured. He was dominant in the first quarter along with the CC line.
Another fine LHAC performance by both squads.
Kudos to Kyler Ford. A clutch kick from 40 yds. even though it didn't seem like he got all of the ball on that particular attempt. The allegations that he can hit it from 50 plus are accurate as demonstrated by some of the rocket kickoffs. I would assume if he continues to progress with his accuracy, he will get some attention by the college ranks by this time next year.
Troy Harris is so exciting to watch. I would hate to coach against him. His vision is tremendous and his cutback ability is uncanny. Durability will be an issue with him. How much pounding can he take? But, the more he handles the ball, along with Derrick, the better the chances for the Bisons to score.
The outcome/pace of the game may have been quite different if Mr. Krull were not to be injured. He was dominant in the first quarter along with the CC line.
Another fine LHAC performance by both squads.
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Re: Bedford @ Central Cambria
It was a great game and i believe krull might have made difference i mean after all he is a great running back. CC drove down the field with him basically and he did everything for that team. when he went out not just him went out there whole gameplan was down the drain. bedfords D played great and some say the first quarter CC drove on bedford and they did but look how bedford played the first quarter...2 times if there was no CC defense bedford still would not have got a first down. Bedford beat themselfs. They played with heart and rebounded i congradulate both teams on a great game.
Re: Bedford @ Central Cambria
bdftbllham55,
You stated,
"By the way, good decision to not take the holding penalty that would have forced a 50 yard field goal instead of the game winning 40..."
You do realize that accepting that penalty would have made it 3rd down again, not 4th down and 10 yards further back. Giving Harris another chance to run wild would not have been wise, considering what he had already done throughout the game. Kyler Ford made a great kick, and whether it cleared by 1 yard or 20 yards, he made it.
You also stated this, concerning an illegal substitution:
"Its the same rule in highschool, but when that 12th guy hasn't gone past the hash, then there is not a problem. Lucky for Bedford, this was the case"
This is incorrect. The hash has nothing to do with the infraction. Let me explain the rule as it applies to High School football. Currently, there is no rule about breaking the huddle with 12 players. The rule in place states that a substituted player must leave the field immediately when replaced. Because there was no substitution, this 12th man must exit the field immediately. Obviously, the kid did not realize he was the 12th man immediately and therefore did not leave the field. It is the job of one of the officials to count the number of players in the huddle for this very reason. If the 12th player in the huddle does not leave the field immediately, it is a penalty. It's purely a judgement call for the official. If he feels the player in question was remaining on the field, then exiting to gain an advantage, then he may throw the flag. Also, some officials will throw the flag immediately when they break the huddle with 12, usually if he has warned the team that they need to get someone off of the field and it doesn't happen in a timely manner. Bottom line, this penalty is a timing issue and is completely up to the official.
This is another rule that needs some tweaking at the high school level, which is probably why the rule in the NCAA is already set - you cannot break the huddle with 12 players on the field.
As far as the Bedford/CC game... I guess the official felt it was an honest mistake and the kid was exiting the field when he realized he was the 12th man. Again, it's a judgement call by the official. Let's be honest here, every call ever made by an official was a judgement call. As we've all heard for many years, there's holding on every play.
The Bedford/CC game was fun to watch, but I was ill for most of it, as the CC defense just could not contain Harris. Even up 14-0, there was a sense of urgency to punch another one in just to be safe. In the end, Ford stepped up and kept the Bisons perfect on the year. It's certainly possible these two could meet again in the playoffs, just as Bedford and FH could play again. As I mentioned earlier in the year, the LHAC is full of tough teams and it will be interesting to see if the Bisons can knock off the same opponent twice in the same season.
Finally, the injury to Krull was crucial, as it limited the Devils to a much more pass-oriented type of game. Hey, injuries happen and CC hung tough with Bedford even after Krull left the game. Like I said, this was a great game and I look forward to a rematch if it should occur.
Great win for the Bisons, tough loss for CC. The Red Devils now have 2 losses by a combined 9 total points. It doesn't get any easier for CC either, as they host the (4-1) Forest Hills Rangers this week. Any input from the Bedford players here - you guys actually played against both teams, who do you think will win this one?
You stated,
"By the way, good decision to not take the holding penalty that would have forced a 50 yard field goal instead of the game winning 40..."
You do realize that accepting that penalty would have made it 3rd down again, not 4th down and 10 yards further back. Giving Harris another chance to run wild would not have been wise, considering what he had already done throughout the game. Kyler Ford made a great kick, and whether it cleared by 1 yard or 20 yards, he made it.
You also stated this, concerning an illegal substitution:
"Its the same rule in highschool, but when that 12th guy hasn't gone past the hash, then there is not a problem. Lucky for Bedford, this was the case"
This is incorrect. The hash has nothing to do with the infraction. Let me explain the rule as it applies to High School football. Currently, there is no rule about breaking the huddle with 12 players. The rule in place states that a substituted player must leave the field immediately when replaced. Because there was no substitution, this 12th man must exit the field immediately. Obviously, the kid did not realize he was the 12th man immediately and therefore did not leave the field. It is the job of one of the officials to count the number of players in the huddle for this very reason. If the 12th player in the huddle does not leave the field immediately, it is a penalty. It's purely a judgement call for the official. If he feels the player in question was remaining on the field, then exiting to gain an advantage, then he may throw the flag. Also, some officials will throw the flag immediately when they break the huddle with 12, usually if he has warned the team that they need to get someone off of the field and it doesn't happen in a timely manner. Bottom line, this penalty is a timing issue and is completely up to the official.
This is another rule that needs some tweaking at the high school level, which is probably why the rule in the NCAA is already set - you cannot break the huddle with 12 players on the field.
As far as the Bedford/CC game... I guess the official felt it was an honest mistake and the kid was exiting the field when he realized he was the 12th man. Again, it's a judgement call by the official. Let's be honest here, every call ever made by an official was a judgement call. As we've all heard for many years, there's holding on every play.
The Bedford/CC game was fun to watch, but I was ill for most of it, as the CC defense just could not contain Harris. Even up 14-0, there was a sense of urgency to punch another one in just to be safe. In the end, Ford stepped up and kept the Bisons perfect on the year. It's certainly possible these two could meet again in the playoffs, just as Bedford and FH could play again. As I mentioned earlier in the year, the LHAC is full of tough teams and it will be interesting to see if the Bisons can knock off the same opponent twice in the same season.
Finally, the injury to Krull was crucial, as it limited the Devils to a much more pass-oriented type of game. Hey, injuries happen and CC hung tough with Bedford even after Krull left the game. Like I said, this was a great game and I look forward to a rematch if it should occur.
Great win for the Bisons, tough loss for CC. The Red Devils now have 2 losses by a combined 9 total points. It doesn't get any easier for CC either, as they host the (4-1) Forest Hills Rangers this week. Any input from the Bedford players here - you guys actually played against both teams, who do you think will win this one?
Re: Bedford @ Central Cambria
Should be another tossup Jozey. I think CC's line is better but, FH skill is better.
The FH will say they played without Madeira in our game and he makes a world of difference. I will abstain from comment.
If Krull is back that is a big boost for CC. Not sure he makes the difference offensively, but defensively.
The FH will say they played without Madeira in our game and he makes a world of difference. I will abstain from comment.
If Krull is back that is a big boost for CC. Not sure he makes the difference offensively, but defensively.