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Posted: **September 10th, 2008, 5:33 pm**

READING COMPREHENSION V-MAN.

those stats are vs. BCS AFFILIATED SCHOOLS IN BCS AFFILIATED CONFERENCES. Penn State has played 50% of their OOC games vs. teams from BCS schools. good enough to be considered in the top 10 since the BCS's inception.

Posted: **September 10th, 2008, 5:37 pm**

vman wrote:At least play 2 real teams every yr ooc....as Vman 's noted before.... if you had some legit ooc games early in the year per chance your record in the last few yrs. would not be like 1-37 vs the Michigan's, Ohio S's, & Wisconsin's.

funny. if you could read, and then comprehend, you'd see that PSU plays 50% of their OOC games vs. BCS schools! Get off of it already!

Posted: **September 11th, 2008, 12:40 am**

Deliverance, lets try this again.

There is one team in the B10 this year who does not have a decent OOC game: Northwestern.

Okay so a home and home does not count? So then Illinois and Missouri doesn't count? PSU played in South Bend and in Lincoln recently. YOUR OWN TEAM played in Columbus.

Penn State played a home and home with Nebraska. They played a home and home w/ Notre Dame. They play an Oregon State team who led the nation in 2007 in rushing defense, and Oregon State is a decent program. Michigan played Utah and will play Notre Dame. Minnesota played Bowling Green. I'm waiting for the Pitt nation to make fun of Bowling Green and Utah. Illinois played a top 10 Missouri, which Deliverance thinks is a "joke". He'll find out October 18th. Indiana plays a Ball State team that I have going undefeated. Iowa plays Iowa State and a supposed top 25 team in Pitt. Michigan State played a top 25 team in Cal. Purdue plays no. 16 Oregon. Wisconsin plays no. 21 Fresno on the road.

Looks pretty good to me.

What in that paragraph looks weak? That looks pretty solid to me: 1 team played no decent competition. What the heck more do you want?

Posted: **September 11th, 2008, 5:09 pm**

There is none so blind..........

vman wrote:
abpk2903 wrote: Find me 10 out of conference schedule that are hands down better than Penn State's.
Here's 68 teams last yr that had a more difficult schedule (including big 10 play!!)...UPS did have it rougher than: Wyoming, Marshall, Eastern Michigan, Idaho, North Texas & Louisiana-Lafayette...hey, maybe those folks have some open dates??

Strength of Schedule
Team Rating

1. Duke (1-11) 0.405
2. Syracuse (2-10) 0.374
3. Baylor (2-9) 0.368
4. Mississippi (2-9) 0.359
5. Notre Dame (3-9) 0.281
6. North Carolina State (4-7) 0.279
7. Stanford (4-8) 0.274
8. Washington (4-9) 0.252
9. South Carolina (5-6) 0.252
10. Iowa State (3-8) 0.250
11. San Diego State (3-8) 0.249
12. Arizona (4-7) 0.240
13. Nebraska (5-7) 0.225
14. Pittsburgh (4-7) 0.223
15. UCLA (6-7) 0.222
16. Minnesota (1-10) 0.221
17. Vanderbilt (4-7) 0.215
18. Washington State (5-7) 0.213
19. Texas A&M (6-6) 0.203
20. North Carolina (3-8) 0.200
21. Louisville (5-6) 0.199
22. Mississippi State (7-5) 0.197
23. Maryland (5-7) 0.188
24. Oregon State (8-4) 0.185
25. Kentucky (7-5) 0.182
26. Alabama (6-6) 0.178
27. California (7-6) 0.170
28. Auburn (8-4) 0.158
29. Florida State (7-6) 0.154
30. Oklahoma State (6-6) 0.147
31. Tennessee (10-4) 0.146
32. Kansas State (4-7) 0.145
33. Colorado (6-7) 0.144
34. UAB (1-10) 0.129
35. Arkansas (7-5) 0.122
36. Georgia Tech (6-6) 0.117
37. South Florida (8-4) 0.115
38. UNLV (2-10) 0.114
39. Colorado State (2-9) 0.104
40. Michigan (9-3) 0.100
41. Miami (5-7) 0.097
42. Illinois (8-4) 0.093
43. Army (2-9) 0.090
44. Arizona State (10-3) 0.090
45. Oregon (9-4) 0.082
46. Connecticut (8-4) 0.081
47. Florida (9-4) 0.075
48. Missouri (11-2) 0.075
49. Boston College (10-3) 0.073
50. Clemson (8-4) 0.062
51. Virginia Tech (10-3) 0.061
52. Wisconsin (8-4) 0.054
53. Georgia (10-2) 0.054
54. LSU (12-2) 0.053
55. Virginia (9-4) 0.051
56. Rutgers (7-5) 0.051
57. Oklahoma (11-3) 0.051
58. Florida Intl (1-11) 0.046
59. Northwestern (5-6) 0.043
60. Michigan State (7-6) 0.038
61. West Virginia (11-2) 0.034
62. West Kentucky (1-5) 0.027
63. USC (11-2) 0.024
64. Indiana (6-6) 0.023
65. Ohio State (10-2) 0.018
66. Texas Tech (8-4) 0.018
67. Cincinnati (9-3) 0.012
68. Wake Forest (9-4) 0.008
69. Penn State (9-4) 0.0
70. Wyoming (5-7) -0.001
71. Kansas (11-1) -0.012
72. Purdue (7-5) -0.016
73. Texas (10-3) -0.025
74. Marshall (3-8) -0.033
75. Eastern Michigan (3-8) -0.036
76. Idaho (0-11) -0.036
77. North Texas (2-10) -0.040
78. Iowa (6-6) -0.048
79. Louisiana-Lafayette (3-8) -0.068
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A quick glance @ 2008 schedules searching for 10 teams w/ more difficult OOC schedules than UPS...here are 11

Georgia plays: @ Arizona St. & Geo Tech
USC plays @ Virginia, Ohio St & ND
Oklahoma plays: Cincinnati, @Washington & TCU
Florida plays: Hawaii, Miami (Fla.) & @ Fla St.
Oregon plays: Utah St., @ Purdue & Boise St.
Oregon St plays UPS, Utah & Hawaii
Fla. Atlantic (a program much more formidable than Fla Int who Moe & Curley scheduled last yr.) plays: @ Texas, UAB, @ Michigan St. & @ Minnesota
PITT plays: 2 MAC's. ND, Iowa & Navy
UCLA plays: Tennessee @ BYU, Arizon & Fresno St.
Colorado plays @ Colorado St., West Virginia & @ Florida St.
North Carolina plays: @ Rutgers, Connecticut & Notre Dame

Next question?

You're okay w/ the 69th toughest sched....including Big 10 games???

You know, I will give up here....but reality is: 2004 thru 2008 (and in foreseeable future) they've made a conscious effort to only schedule one game vs a top flight opponent and find like the 3 easiest squads/teams that will not want a home & home...Remember >

vman wrote:You guys will cough up the dough if they bring in Marist !!!

What am I going to do if I don't banter w/ Nitwits??? Perhaps the Centre Times (or whatever the rag there is) has updated crime reports????

Posted: **September 11th, 2008, 5:49 pm**

you say 1:3. I provide you with 2:2. Why do you get to name the years? Why not go from when the BCS's inception forward? Because it doesn't fit your purpose. That's why. Completely ignore TAE's and my posts when they make 100% valid points that contradict your view and stance!

Where did you have to go to find that abpk post? He hasn't yet posted on this thread yet. Unreal.

Posted: **September 11th, 2008, 6:17 pm**

You are thicker than I thought :

vman wrote:There is none so blind..........
reality is: 2004 thru 2008 (and in foreseeable future) they've made a conscious effort to only schedule one game vs a top flight opponent and find like the 3 easiest squads/teams that will not want a home & home...

'04 thru '08 inclusively, is a five yr span...the 5 most recent/relative years[/b....]in those 5 yrs it is clearly UPS only scheduled one 'challenging' game....and will continue doing so in the future!!

1:3, 2:2, 110, 220, 221...whatever it takes!!!

Posted: **September 11th, 2008, 8:03 pm**

TAE, take off your Big 10 bias glasses and think about it. You know better than that. PSU plays no one OOC. Don't even try to tell me Oregon State is decent. They will be lucky to win 6 games and I highly doubt that is going to happen. I don't call that decent. If you call that decent, then you could use Pitt as an example of a decent team the past few years. We all know that's not true. You won't change my mind on this one.

Are you counting Central Michigan for Indiana?
Are you counting Oregon State for PSU?
Who are you counting for Minnesota? Bowling Green or FAU?
Ohio State plays USC. There's 1.
Wisconsin plays at Fresno State. That is 2.
Iowa plays Pitt. Sorry, that leaves you at 2.
Illinois played Missouri. That is 3.
Purdue plays Oregon. That is 4.
Michigan State played Cal. That is 5.
Michigan played Utah. I guess that may count for 6.

That's a little over half, but not all of the teams in the Big 11. Your research showed different results than mine.

Posted: **September 12th, 2008, 1:01 am**

How's that Texas - Rice rivalry? Must be pretty heated since you play them every season. I'm sure it rivals Colorado and Co. State and UGA and Geo. Tech, right? How about the fact that he throws FAU out there as a bad opponent? Guess who Texas played already. Deliverance, answer me this: who is picked to win the Sun Belt this year by everyone under the sun?

Yep, Bowling Green sucks. Any Pitt fans want to dispute this yet? Anybody? Anybody at all?

So Indiana plays a Ball State team I have going undefeated, and a Central Michigan team that every college preseason magazine has winning their conference, a conference that has shown a hell of a lot of progress lately against BCS schools. But those Indiana matchups are cupcakes? That doesn't make any sense, Deliverance.

Answer me this: who is picked to win the MAC this season, and is their QB hyped as a top 3 QB prospect in the 2009 draft?

Oregon State. Here's a program who snapped USC's conference winning streak. Here's a team who has the longest active streak of Pac-10 bowl victories. Here's a team who led the nation (that includes being ahead of Penn State and Texas) in rushing defense last year. Don't act like Oregon State is Utah State, Deliverance. You know dang well that Oregon State is "decent".

From what I've seen of the Big East, Pitt looks like they might legitimately win that conference. So the game vs. Iowa is a good OOC game.

So you have 6 of 11 Big Ten teams playing a decent OOC opponent. There is a case for 10 of 11, chico. Only team who plays no one "decent" is Northwestern.

Posted: **September 12th, 2008, 5:53 am**

Look at that list for Strength of Schedule. NONE of top 21 had winning records. Maybe that is because those top 20 teams listed gave up free wins weekly to their opponents adding to their opponents record......

Stats and numbers can always be used in any way you want to use them. See, if you beat teams, you take their win percentage down and overall strength down.

Posted: **September 12th, 2008, 6:17 am**

Who cares what Oregon State did last year or the year before!! Lets just all ride this "PSU is gonna win the National Title" fantasy out until they hit the Big 11 schedule. Every year PSU plays their early patsie schedule and all the die hard Jokepa fans have to start justifying their wins vs. cupcakes. It happens almost every year. They start out 4-0 and hit the Big 11 and reality sets in. I am sure the same will happen again this year.

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