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....Not exactly sure why frostlion brought up this topic, or what he was trying to prove, but hears the poop on PSU and the SEC.
...As most people know, teams have NO control who their opponent will be once they are invited to play in a bowl game. The bowl committee pairs teams up and they play each other. The regular season is different. Schools can decide WHO THEY WANT TO SCHEDULE for the upcoming years ahead. So schools have COMPLETE control over who they want to play during the REGULAR season.
... Not sure why frostlion picked 25 years as the parameter for SEC scheduling, but here's the facts about PSU and the SEC:
...From 1981 to 1990, Penn State enjoyed a 10 year home and away series with Alabama, similar to the series' with Pitt, WVU, Maryland, Syracuse, Temple, etc. During those 10 years, Penn State's record against Alabama was 4-6, including the 42-21 debacle against Alabama in 1982, the year PSU was GIVEN the National Championship. (After all, how can a team lose 42-21 to a team and STILL be in the hunt for the National Championship)
... Since that 10 year series with Alabama ended in 1990, Penn State HAS NOT PLAYED AN SEC TEAM DURING THE REGULAR SEASON. That's 19 straight years without INTENTIONALLY scheduling an SEC opponent for regular season play. And WHY NOT????? Is Penn State SCARED to play SEC teams????? I'm sure the braintrust that schedules Penn State football opponents could have found an SEC regular season opponent if they would have tried. Sounds to me like they were afraid. What does everyone think?

Penn State has played Alabama alone six times during that 25 year period. Add the next two years, which would have already been played by now had Alabama not requested the series be delayed, and that is eight times. Penn State has also faced other SEC teams in eight bowl games. 16 SEC games in 25 years for PSU. Zero for Pitt.

The facts just keep getting worse, for consider these data:

The number of times current Big East teams have played SEC teams in the past 25 years:

Cincinnati: 14
U-Conn: 2
Louisville: 21
Rutgers: 11
USF: 5
Syracuse: 14
WVU: 12

PITT: ZERO


Just the facts!

YOU ARE SUCH A JERK!!!!!!!!! Didn't you read a word I just posted. PSU HAS INTENTIONALLY NOT SCHEDULED AN SEC SCHOOL FOR 19 YEARS!!!!! I thought the past was irrelevant???? PSU is afraid to schedule SEC teams for their regular season, but has NO trouble scheduling MAC teams, I-aa opponents, and Temple in their place. And then to bring the old "WE WERE SUPPOSED TO PLAY ALABAMA" argument into the mix IS A JOKE!!!!! And to bring the REST of the Big East teams into the argument is absurd. I used to respect you, frostlion, but this topic makes NO sense at all to the ongoing "tit-for-tat" that we Pitt/PSU fans have going with each other. Try a topic with a little substance next time.

There has been no response to the original question that I posted: "Is Pitt Scared to Play SEC Teams." This was not a thread about Penn State. In the past quarter century Pitt has neither scheduled nor played an SEC team during the regular season or a bowl game, while Penn State (after others dragged them into this argument) has. Other members of the Big East also have scheduled numerous SEC teams during the regular season, and also have played them during bowl games.

The question remains: Why has Pitt failed to do so? No more dragging Penn State into this argument. Someone please attempt to answer the question. Numerous people love to tout the greatness of computer rankings. If the computers tell us all that the SEC is the greatest conference, then why has Pitt avoided scheduling even one game against the greatest conference at any time during the past quarter century? Furthermore, it is often said that "you are judged by your contemporaries." If every other member of the Big East has scheduled SEC teams, why hasn't Pitt? Since Penn State was dragged into this argument, other members of the Big Ten have scheduled SEC teams, as has Penn State.

Say what you will (Moldo) about the PSU/Alabama series being delayed, but the fact remains that it was, and was done so because Alabama requested it being done.

This is so bad, I'll bet even TAE is laughing at you. ( Along with 99% of the rest of the posters on this site ). Talk about a conspiracy theory.

The computers say that the SEC is the best conference in the nation, so yes I must agree with them.

And I agree also Frosty

Last time I checked, the Mountain West isn't a BCS conference.

Again, your point? Is PSU scared to play Mt. West teams? Just pointing out the irrelevance of your idiotic post

Penn State has played at least a dozen PAC-10 teams over the same period of time, either from scheduling, or in bowls.

I think your count is off....10 is more accurate and only 5 of those were scheduled reg. season games that could be controlled the preplanned schedule...the others were part of Bowl games or the old pre-season classics

Does Pitt still fleece opposing team fans by making them buy a three or four game ticket package?

I don't think you even want to go into the ticket price/package argument after what the other Pa. Div. I school in State College pulled just recently

This post is just plain idiotic especially when the author, a known PSU fan, can't say the same about his own school in the last 20 years but pulls 25 out of his hat just to make a ridiculous argument.

If we're going back years and years....explain to me why you weren't national champions in '69 when you were undefeated? Standard PSU answer is....Richard Nixon gave it to Texas when in reality PSU turned down a Cotton Bowl bid to play Texask

Now that, frosty...is some serious dodging of playing decent opposition that could have been controlled, and could have proved on the field who was #1 that year.

The real question is how does PSU find a way out of playing Alabama next year? They have to be trying to find a way to not have that evil put on them.

Head Roadie hit the nail on the head when he said frosty bears post was IDIOTIC!

And the fact that a guy who claims to hate Pitt, has so much time on his hands to look up all those Big East teams records vs the SEC, is kinda sad.

Its not so much "idiotic" as it is maybe a little in left field, but I don't see why this particular thread has caused so much uproar when every single one of us posts jabs at eachother every single day. Don't even act like you (anyone who is reading this) has not posted something tongue in cheek to jab at everyone else. I said last week that pitt had to eat a catered meal from a high school cafeteria. Obviously that wasn't serious, and it was way more ridiculous than this thread. I dunno if you are all PMSing today or what.

There are two good points that I have seen in this thread though. 1. Why is the list of Big East schools who played SEC teams irrelevant? I thought it was pretty interesting. Which leads me to...

2. I keep telling you guys that WVU will sell-out the BE in about 3 seconds if the SEC comes calling. WVU actively scheduling SEC opponents is not only giving them a good OOC opponent, it is also an opportunity for the university to interact with the SEC universities. You don't think a good level of comraderie will sway the vote in favor of WVU over someone else if there's an SEC opening?

Whew.

I simply raise a point and ask a question, that got no response, other than personal attacks! I might not be able to sleep at night knowing that Pitt fans think I'm a less credible poster. Will this have any influence on whether I can finance a car in the future?