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Regarding PSU basketball... Cornell and Bucknell are both close by and would destroy PSU on the court and also do it in recruiting. Why have we not gone after either of these coaches, who already successfully recruit to small schools, which is harder than at a place like Penn State? The whole "we cant win" argument is so old and ridiculous. More like "we dont wanna try to win".

Cornell and Bucknell DO NOT recruit better than psu!! another reason enima needs to stick to football and copying what scout.com says!

Are you on drugs, boy?

Cornell has to attain kids who can handle an Ivy League academic schedule AND ARE ALSO good at basketball. Then they have to get those kids to come to a school in the middle of nowhere. Cornell's recruiting IS much more effective... and more logical... than Penn State's. Places like this don't just recruit athletes, they recruit to fit a system. What's Penn State's system?

Bucknell also has a better program right now than Penn State. Penn State's basketball recruiting is abyssmal. Look at how many misses Eddie has had with big men.

Penn State is lucky to land a 3-star here and there who has offers to Kent and IUP.

You are the scout.com expert. Read what they have said the last 4 to 5 years about Cornell and Bucknell recruits compared to psu. Those two are recruiting academics 1st! They are recruiting good quality kids that are good at academics first and then basketball. They are getting zero star kids to their program. They have been fortunate the last year or two to be pretty good. You cant say the same about psu. You have access to all that info and live on all those sites. Cornell may have had 1 or 2 higher recruits the last 4 years....maybe! but overall psu is getting the better basketball players plain and simple. Battle is better than anyone on Bucknells squad and Cornell too for that matter. Simply put psu is getting better basketball players. Cornell and Bucknell are getting better students/athletes. And I think their conference and schedule is a little more favorable than psu's.
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No. Cornell has a much, much smaller pool to draw from. They recruit pieces, Ed recruits whoever he can get. Then, when Cornell advances and PSU loses every game, how can u day Cornell is worse than Penn State?

You can't use star rankings when talking about Ivy League schools or schools that run a certain style of play. An example might be someone in football like Georgia Tech. They run the triple option. So when recruiting rankings are finished, Ga Tech may not get much love. But, they recruit kids who fit that system and they will be continually successful with "a bunch of 3-star players".

Penn States football program is good at identifying kids who are under the radar but are good fits. The basketball program takes who they can get.

TAE that is not recruiting. That is coaching. PSU is getting better recruits bar none! Cornell isnt. That is coaching....and scheduling and strength of schedule. Has nothing to do with recruiting.

Yes, it is. They are NOT targeting the same kids. You are basing this "better recruiting" off of star rankings. You cannot use those rankings when comparing an Ivy League school to someone else, they inherently target a much different talent pool and if you go by those rankings, the Ivy League schools would always be at the very, very bottom. MOST "regular kids" would get accepted nationwide, but not at Ivy League schools.

Texas Tech under Leach did not recruit the same WR pool that others did. Neither does Ga Tech, offensively. System teams recruit based on "fits", not soley on who is a 5* player and who isn't.

So then enima why do you put some much emphasis on how many stars a recruit may have? You just said yourself that a team recruits to their style and it may not be a 4 star recruit. Are you saying that all your previous posts about psu getting 4 and 5 stars recruits is now rubish? because teams recruit to fit their system? Or is the star system legit? you tell us....I am curious

I am curious as to why enima puts so much emphasis on recruits stars and he now just says that a team will recruit to fit their system regardless of stars....

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Star rankings are important because they are generally an objective opinion on a kid's level of talent at the current point in his career. But with anything opinion based, you have to take it with a grain of salt. That's why I take a look at the kid on both Rivals and Scout and form my own opinion. If the kid is a 5* on Rivals and a 4* on Scout, he's probably a 4.5*.

My worry about the Penn State class is in the player's offer sheet. We are targeting kids who are not receiving many written offers, and when we DO offer a kid with multiple D1 offers, we are not winning those battles this season. That's very disturbing, coming off a recruiting season where we stole 3 legacies from under the noises of other schools. That's not easy to do, and it shows how hard a staff is working. A year later, we are battling Bucknell for tight ends and chasing kids in Connecticut who are not even listed in the Scout database, let alone having any offers (he doesn't).

In my opinion, you have to look at a kid's offer sheet to get a good analysis. Last year's class had great offers. I realize Penn State has had a lot of success over the years with kids who are "underrated" and just overachieve on the field, but I dont want 12 of them in a recruiting class. 1-3, fine. But we should be catching much bigger fish (kids with bigtime offers) than what we are currently. PSU is sitting very well with a number of top-rated kids with great offers, but I am pretty uneasy about the staff's ability to land them, at this point.

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Shocker, PSU does not run a gimmick offense like Texas Tech or Georgia Tech do. You cant really compare those recruiting classes to other schools. Go back and look at the offers lists for kids like Timmy Chang or any of those Texas Tech QBs. They are system players. Look how many thousands of yards those kids threw for. The same goes for HS QBs who are good at running the triple option.