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upnorth, those are some valid links. Indeed, there have certainly been several incidents over the last several years in which Pitt football players were in the wrong.

Since you shared these links, would you like me to publish the EXTREMELY LENGTHY LIST (now at well over 100 different individuals) of PSU players and coaches who have committed crimes during the last decade?

Just let me know and I'll be happy to publish it here as I have many times before, complete with references and links.

Those who often post here are VERY familiar with that list. It's now significantly more lengthy that it was 3-4 years ago when I posted it, as you can imagine.

The big difference between the links you post about Pitt is that on the PSU list which I have, those players who committed acts similar or worse (like beating undergrads silly, shooting arrows through apartment walls, etc.) were allowed to continue playing or at worst picked up trash at The Beav on Sunday mornings. Any disciplinary measures for football players beyond cleaning the stadium or running extra wind sprints after practice would simply not be tolerated by the great disciplinarian and teacher of life Joe Paterno. Anyone who tried to intervene to implement the student code of conduct was silenced and squashed (see Vicky Tripponey.)

As for the coaches, leaders, and professor emeritus who committed crimes or knowingly covered up crimes against young boys...Well, we know all about that story, right upnorth?

You can post whatever you like Titan, but I find it kind of sad that you feel the need to keep a running tab of player indiscretions and criminal activity for the past four years (or longer) and post it again and again. Just what is it that you hope to accomplish?

I do enjoy your frequent posts regarding all aspects of the Sandusky scandal. That's that gift that keeps on giving and giving and giving…

Again, I don't see where Pitt comes into a discussion of PSU football players egging a building in Happy Valley. upnorth has chosen to use the "misery loves company" defense in this discussion. I'd really like HIS opinion of the egging incident.

Moldo, you have never thrown eggs? Or was it your house that always got egged?

El-Moldo wrote:Again, I don't see where Pitt comes into a discussion of PSU football players egging a building in Happy Valley. upnorth has chosen to use the "misery loves company" defense in this discussion. I'd really like HIS opinion of the egging incident.

Not mounting a defense at all Moldo, just pointing out that all men are flawed to a poster that repeatedly bangs his anti-PSU drum for some reason while reveling in the misdeeds of others.

My opinion? Young (and not so young) men and women sometimes do very stupid things, especially when alcohol or drugs are involved. These four players were all cited with criminal mischief and will have to live with the consequences of that every time they apply for a job and have to disclose it. It's not my position to judge what additional measures the university will take, but I think restitution in the form of cleaning the dorm in question on weekends (especially the community bathrooms) sounds appropriate.

What's an appropriate consequence for a football coach who speaks as if he and his university and players are the exemplars of morality and righteousness yet rules a university using power, bullying, fear, and intimidation and uses his influence to minimize and conceal horrid crimes against children?

Ur obsession with PSU cracks me up man!

Egging or not, don't you think that Franklin should be upset about 4 of his players running around late at night 2 days before a BIG game? AND, as everyone knows, isn't Franklin a man who is worried about his image, and the image of his team? He dropped the Hartsfield kid from his scholarship as son as his high school was mentioned in that hazing incident, before it was proven that he was even involved. Maybe Franklin will make a decision on the egging punishment as soon as he sees what the players' mothers look like.

2 days before the game? I could see if it was the night before but what does it matter if they are out late 2 nights before a game?

Can't believe we are actually discussing college KIDS throwing eggs. Yes I'm sure Franklin is not thrilled about it but let's not make it more than it is.