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Re: Wins restored at Penn State/Consent Decree invalid
Posted: January 16th, 2015, 4:51 pm
by El-Moldo
Where did they put that statue? And Paternoville lives!!!!!
Re: Wins restored at Penn State/Consent Decree invalid
Posted: January 17th, 2015, 9:19 am
by Crimson's Ghost
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That's what I'm talking about when sane people that root for the university get lumped in with this nice gentleman.
Re: Wins restored at Penn State/Consent Decree invalid
Posted: January 17th, 2015, 9:20 am
by KirkHerbstreit
I'm in the crowd that did not really care about the wins. I wanted Paterno gone, as coach, since about 1999. He built the program to what it is, but he held it back for 10+ years. I'm sure if it was your dad and the wins were restored, you would be very happy, but some of the other fans whose fandom borders on worship of him is bad for the program.
Re: Wins restored at Penn State/Consent Decree invalid
Posted: January 17th, 2015, 9:23 am
by KirkHerbstreit
That's what I'm talking about when sane people that root for the university get lumped in with this nice gentleman.[/quote]
Outside of John Ziegler, who is not a Penn State alum, I have never seen anyone say Sandusky needs a new trial besides that post you just provided, but you are right it only takes one idiot to have a universal opinion on a fanbase. I haven't seen that post. I pretty much ignored all the posts yesterday about the wins because it is nauseating. I prefer to talk football, but there are a lot of loons where psu football begins and ends with their god joe.
Re: Wins restored at Penn State/Consent Decree invalid
Posted: January 17th, 2015, 11:19 pm
by WPIAL~Titan
Any PSU Cult Truther who thinks Paterno didn't know what he had on his hands in Uncle Jer needs to read this sickening grand jury transcript...I stress: THESE ARE JVPs OWN WORDS, not mine!!!
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/06/12/ ... testimony/
After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe...
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--joe ... R2dGlkAw--
Believe it or not, I agree with PSU getting credit for the victories. The games, although tainted with the stain of the obvious coverup, were won by the players. Give the Paternos and other cultist the 409 wins. This might keep the Paternos and the Truthers quiet for a few days...
One thing is for certain though: No amount of wins that have been reattributed to JVP will ever restore his destroyed and well deserved disgraced reputation and the complete sham of the Grand Experiment and Success With Honor.
Paterno trumpeted his "We Are...Better than You" mantra from the rooftops, when it turned out that Paterno was far more vile, devious, and void of integrity than the Sherrills and Switzers of the world.
Re: Wins restored at Penn State/Consent Decree invalid
Posted: January 19th, 2015, 11:07 am
by abpk2903
Pitt's head football coach beat the living daylights out of his fiancé...
Re: Wins restored at Penn State/Consent Decree invalid
Posted: January 19th, 2015, 11:12 am
by Crimson's Ghost
Did Pitt cover it up for decades?
Re: Wins restored at Penn State/Consent Decree invalid
Posted: January 19th, 2015, 11:54 am
by abpk2903
Did Penn State cover anything up? I'm yet to see a formal charge stick in court.
That wasn't really directed at you crimson. The point I am making is I can choose 1 horrible instance that happened at Pitt and just post about it for 5 years following it.
Re: Wins restored at Penn State/Consent Decree invalid
Posted: January 19th, 2015, 12:33 pm
by footballguy99
Ok, WPIAL TITAN, I took your bait. I'll paste some things from the transcript you shared. I'm also wondering how a man covers something up when he tells what information he knows to someone higher up than him? Prior to this year, I believe this is how this information was to be handled? Reports of abuse were passed up the chain so they could be taken of. I know if I am covering something up, I don't tell anyone. I keep it as a secret.
Q: I’d like to direct your attention to what I believe would be a spring break of 2002, around that time. Do you recall Michael McQueary calling you and asking to have a discussion with you about something that he observed?
Mr. Paterno: I’m not sure of the date, but he did call me on a Saturday morning. He said he had something that he wanted to discuss. I said, come on over to the house.
He came over to the house.
And as I said, I’m not sure what year it was, but I know it was a Saturday morning and we discussed something he had seen.
Q: Without getting into any graphic detail, what did Mr. McQueary tell you he had seen and where?
Mr. Paterno: Well, he had seen a person, an older — not an older, but a mature person who was fondling, whatever you might call it — I’m not sure what the term would be — a young boy.
Q: Did he identify who that older person was?
Mr. Paterno: Yes, a man by the name of Jerry Sandusky who had been one of our coaches, was not at the time.
Q: I think you used the term fondling. Is that the term that you used?
Mr. Paterno: Well, I don’t know what you would call it. Obviously, he was doing something with the youngster.
It was a sexual nature. I’m not sure exactly what it was.
I didn’t push Mike to describe exactly what it was because he was very upset. Obviously, I was in a little bit of a dilemma since Mr. Sandusky was not working for me anymore.
So I told — I didn’t go any further than that except I knew Mike was upset and I knew some kind of inappropriate action was being taken by Jerry Sandusky with a youngster.
Q: Did you tell Mike McQueary at that time what you were going to do with that information that he had provided to you?
Mr. Paterno: I don’t know whether I was specific or not. I did tell Mike, Mike, you did what was right; you told me.
Even though Jerry does not work for the football staff any longer, I would refer his concerns to the right people.
Q: To whom or with whom did you share the information that McQueary had given you?
Mr. Paterno: I talked to my immediate boss, our athletic director.
Q: How did you contact Mr. Curley?
Mr. Paterno: I believe I did it by phone. As I recall, I called him and I said, hey, we got a problem, and I explained the problem to him.
Q: Was the information that you passed along substantially the same information that Mr. McQueary had given you?
Mr. Paterno: Yes.
Re: Wins restored at Penn State/Consent Decree invalid
Posted: January 19th, 2015, 12:51 pm
by knowitall
If you see a child being raped, who do you call?
Mike McQueary, Joe Paterno and Tim Curley all should have called the police.
End of story.