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Johnstown sir? Or Carrol sir? [/quote]
Sir?

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face it chum, its about something personal with mccort.
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Your only saying that because you are associated with mccort in some way, shape or form.

I'll tell you why it's "personal" with McCort. 1. Because they are doing it. 2. Because they think there should be a parade when they win 6 games a season over teams like Heights and Somerset, lose to every good team they play, and then brag about how they have a 398 year streak with consecutive winning seasons. 3. They make t-shirts about it. 4. They tell kids from other schools that they will go to the NFL if they "transfer" to Bishop McCort. 5. They act like they are the best team in the area, and cannot even win their conference. 6. I personally know someone who told me in confidentiality (I'm not coughing up his name, even with Guantanamo tactics) that he and a male member of his family were contacted illegally by the Bishop McCort coaching staff about "transferring". He told me he does not know if they did this to anyone else for sure, but that it absolutely happened with him and a member of his family. THAT is how it is "personal".

I believe that there is a very fine line between what is legal and what is not legal. Here is my take on the subject. I believe that "out of season" camps/clinics (practices) are legal under the following conditions:
1. they must be voluntary.
2. no blocking/tackling dummies can be used. this includes sleds.
3. none of the camps/clinics(ie practices) can have contact of any type.
4. no school issued uniforms or logos can be used.
5. the prinicpal may authorize the kids to use equipment (pads) and training/first aid equipment.
6. coaches can be on the field.

In HS we practiced all summer using shoes and helmets. This was a safety issue. I don't know anything about McCort but I believe that it is legal to use equipment as long as there is no contact, which obviously seems ridiculous since that is what the pads are for.

TBone, alot of schools are in passing leagues in the summer, with helmets and shirts, and spikes. is that what you were doing?

HOOOO-boy! TAE, you nailed it. The inference that Jtown and BC do it also is secondary. They don't have 328 consecutive winning seasons. They formerly competed in the WPIAL or Heritage until a few years ago. They aren't the ones who have been "allegedly" committing all these violations. Although there occasionally is a newsworthy item about even their player(s). The fact remains BM is a 'religious' school with certain privileges not afforded a public school, and the PIAA doesn't have the backbone to make any case against them.

flybynight
We ran our offense and had 90% of our plays in by the first day of camp. I believe that we got together 2 days a week in June and then 3 days a week in July.

look, there is no rule about the coaches being on or off the field. as long as its voluntary and theres no contact, they are aloud to have practice. they are just not aloud to use the shoulder pads. i go to bedford and we play in the passing leagues and i know everyone there has mini practices to get ready for them. They just learn the plays so they can get right to business when camp starts. everyone does it so lets just drop the subject.

I believe the key words here are voluntary, no contact, and unorganized.

Of course who is to say where exactly the line is drawn.

I can remember back in the day (us Rangers love to refer to the day) Wayne Seese and Larry Celmer (both former coaches at FH) would run summer workouts all summer long right beside rt. 869 behind the baseball field. I don't think they were hiding anything, so some sort of unorganized practice must be legal.

That is very misleading. Those coaches were not running plays with the kids, Opinionguy. They stood on the side while the captains of the team made kids do running drills and calisthetics. I remember many times that there wasn't even a football down there.

TAE: I agree with you there. But, that is where the fine line is drawn. What defines a practice and what doesn't?

I believe the PIAA defines a practice as organized and mandatory. It doesn't say anything about coaches being present or anything of that nature.

It may mention something about contact, but I could think a contact practice is "organized"

Again a fine line, whose to say who crosses it?