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[KirkHerbstreit]

Pete Carrol would never take his foot off the gas when his team is trying to prove it is the best in the nation. Big East fans have been spinning things all year. Sagarin ratings, OOC schedules, but when you look at the final results one thing became obvious. The Big East is/was a Fraud. Cincy beat an Oregon State team that got pummeled by BYU then played that joke of a Conference and went undefeated in it only to be shown as a complete joke in their bowl game. WVU lost the only decent OOC game they played to Auburn then got beat by a 6-6 team in their bowl game. Pitt Loses to ACC cellar dweller NC State and needs an offside on a FG kick to beat an unranked UNC team. But they accumulated wins in their crappy conference to get where they are.

As for the Big Ten, they aren't sweating anything right now. They've already proven themselves this weekend. According to Sagarin #12 Ohio State beat # 5 Oregon. #20 Penn State beat #10 LSU, #37 Wisconsin beat #11 Miami(a team that just weeks prior pummeled south Florida), and number #68 Northwestern took #25 Auburn to Overtime with an injured field goal kicker away from taking it to 2OT (btw WVU lost to that same Auburn team) I am pretty sure the Big 10 is pretty comfortable win or lose the last 2 games.

[Sideling Hill Fan]

Did I read correctly this morning that yesterday's win by Ohio State was the first BCS Bowl wins for the Big 10 since 2006? I didn't realize it had gone that bad as of late but at least the buckeyes saved us from more embarassment. If Iowa can win that will put us 2-0 and avoid a 2-2 record in this years Major (New Years Day and BCS) Bowls. If RichRod gets it going at Michigan, maybe the Big Ten will finally be back.

[ham55]

And I'll tell you what's funny. Ham was bragging about how the Big Ten Conference has lost two bowl games so far BY ONLY 4 POINTS. Never said anything about how PSU won BY ONLY TWO POINTS. The new Big Ten rallying cry for bowl games is now, "We're still losing bowl games, but not by as much".

I wasn't bragging, buddy. I was stating facts. If you watched either of those games the BigTen teams had opportunities to win the game on the last drive, and things just fell apart.

Penn State only won by 2 points? Hey genius, they won by 2 points vs an opponent that was ranked higher than PSU was. They beat a team that was favored in the game. So much for the speed being so much faster in the Pac-10 and the SEC.

It's simply amazing how much you guys dislike and will say anything, even when it doesn't make sense, to degrade the BigTen.

What are you gonna say next year when there are 2 BigTen teams ranked in the top 10 to start the year, and no Big lEast team ranked once again? I'm sure it will be the BigTen's fault once again.

[abpk2903]

MHMR,

Last year PSU lost to USC by 14 and had the ball with like 7 minutes left down 14. That was a game for some of the second half. Lets also remember that PSU had a loss last year and was ranked 8th in the country. On the other hand, Cincy was the class of the Big Easy and undefeated playing a 1 loss team in Florida and had the worst loss (IMO) in BCS history.

[abpk2903]

And so what if Pitt finishes below PSU in the rankings. PSU was the team that had ALL those national aspirations at the beginning of the season. Too bad they couldn't live up to them.

I'm pretty sure PSU will be really close to the same ranking they were given at the beginning of the season. Let's recap entire receiving corps, entire secondary, 4 of 5 OL, 4 year starting kicker, and 3 of 4 DL needed replaced. Let's add in about 5 LB injuries before the Big Ten season started and finishing in (or around) the top 10 is about as good as can be expected.

[El-Moldo]

Ham demonstrates the Penn State mindset perfectly. When 25th ranked Pitt tied 14th ranked PSU in wrestling 2 weeks ago, all Ham could say was that PSU gave Pitt a freebie. Nothing about how a lower ranked team took it to a higher ranked team. Now, however, we hear what a monumental achievement it was that PSU beat a higher ranked LSU team by 2 points. Tell me how THIS makes sense. Amazing, isn't it.

[KirkHerbstreit]

The only thing amazing here is that you keep trying to put your spin on things when the fact is the Big East was shown to be a fraud yesterday something South Florida is only justifying right now.

The Big Ten beat 3 teams ranked in the top 25 yesterday.

The Big East had their lunch handed to them in their only game against a ranked team, lost to 6-6 fla state, and needed unranked UNC to jump offsides to pull out a win.

It's funny how Sagarin has the Big East ranked ahead of the ACC yet the 3rd ranked team in the big east lost to the 10th best team in the ACC and needed a last second field goal and an offside call to beat the 7th best team in the ACC. The second ranked team in the Big East lost to the 6th best team in the ACC. Kind of funny.

My bad....South Florida is pulling away from Powerhouse Northern Illinois now.

[El-Moldo]

You know why they play 7 games in a World Series???? Because one game isn't enough to determine who's the best. Kirk keeps harping on how one game means so much. However, it is an indicator of how a conference is. Last year, the Big Ten went 1-6 in bowl games. Now THAT was significant in determining how that conference was.

[once a runner]

Pete Carrol would never take his foot off the gas when his team is trying to prove it is the best in the nation.

After USC went up 38-14 with 13 minutes left in the game they threw one pass the rest of the game after spending the better part of the game torching the PSU secondary. One might consider that taking the foot off the gas.

Last year PSU lost to USC by 14 and had the ball with like 7 minutes left down 14. That was a game for some of the second half.

Not exactly. USC was up 38-17 with just over 6 minutes left in the game.

[KirkHerbstreit]

You know why they play 7 games in a World Series???? Because one game isn't enough to determine who's the best. Kirk keeps harping on how one game means so much. However, it is an indicator of how a conference is. Last year, the Big Ten went 1-6 in bowl games. Now THAT was significant in determining how that conference was.

Moldo do you even look at the matchups? Have you not figured out yet that the Big East plays terrible tie ins because no one respects them? Keep looking at records and keep living in your dream land. The Big East is basically conference USA and West Virginia who is the only team in the Big East that can possibly do anything on a given year, but that was while dickrod was there