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Re: Bishop Carroll Joins Mountain League as 2A School

Posted: November 15th, 2017, 1:26 pm
by BoStillKnows
DragonsDoExist wrote:
BoStillKnows wrote:I would HATE to see the MAC go to an ALL Conference Schedule like the LHAC Conference. It would ruin rivalry games like BA-Tyrone and MU-Huntingdon. Those kind of games are what high school football is all about.
Agree 100%. Locals are thrilled to have Hollidaysburg back on the schedule and it's a good test for both teams. I see they actually moved that game to the season finale for next year.


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Exactly!!! I'm glad to see Altoona-Hollidaysburg is back to playing next year. I think those type of things are lost when you have a "Super Conference" per say like the LHAC or WPIAL that is loaded top to bottom with teams. I think every team every year should have at least 1 or 2 out of conference games, especially to allow long lasting rivalries or border school districts. I understand what the LHAC and WPIAL want but at the same time it takes away from some pretty good matchups that could happen.

Re: Bishop Carroll Joins Mountain League as 2A School

Posted: November 15th, 2017, 5:10 pm
by Clemsonpsufan
BC better add more bleachers ha

Re: Bishop Carroll Joins Mountain League as 2A School

Posted: November 15th, 2017, 5:21 pm
by DragonsDoExist
Clemsonpsufan wrote:BC better add more bleachers ha
Visitor seating not great???


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Re: Bishop Carroll Joins Mountain League as 2A School

Posted: November 15th, 2017, 5:30 pm
by GoldenRamsFAN
I wouldn’t say the LHAC or the WPIAL is loaded top to bottom. The WPIAL is overrated as an overall conference, but the teams that win D7 are obviously very good. The teams on the bottom are still horrible.

Re: Bishop Carroll Joins Mountain League as 2A School

Posted: November 15th, 2017, 5:51 pm
by Crimson's Ghost
DragonsDoExist wrote:
Clemsonpsufan wrote:BC better add more bleachers ha
Visitor seating not great???


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Bishop Carroll's home bleachers are smaller than most visiting bleachers.  And they don't have visiting bleachers. It's likely the smallest stadium in D6.

Re: Bishop Carroll Joins Mountain League as 2A School

Posted: November 15th, 2017, 6:12 pm
by Clemsonpsufan
DragonsDoExist wrote:
Clemsonpsufan wrote:BC better add more bleachers ha
Visitor seating not great???


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Only one side of bleachers....im guessing 25 to 25 yard line

Re: Bishop Carroll Joins Mountain League as 2A School

Posted: November 15th, 2017, 7:17 pm
by DragonsDoExist
Clemsonpsufan wrote:
DragonsDoExist wrote:
Clemsonpsufan wrote:BC better add more bleachers ha
Visitor seating not great???


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Only one side of bleachers....im guessing 25 to 25 yard line
Yikes.


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Re: Bishop Carroll Joins Mountain League as 2A School

Posted: November 15th, 2017, 9:41 pm
by youngbuck
They had access to St Francis until the board pushed Craig Sponsky out. Sponsky was very friendly with the Degols.

Re: Bishop Carroll Joins Mountain League as 2A School

Posted: November 16th, 2017, 6:19 pm
by Fballrules17
GoldenRamsFAN wrote:The WPIAL is overrated as an overall conference
First, it's a district made up of many conferences, not just one conference.   In single A the tri-county south would be one of the worst small school conferences in the state, whereas the Eastern Conference is by far the best Single A conference in the state.  In 2016 5 of 8 eight WPIAL quarter finalists were from the Eastern Conference (Clairton, Jeannette, Bishop Canevin, Imani, and Springdale).  This year 3 of the 4 Semi-Finalists are from the Eastern Conference.  (Jeannette, Clairton, and Imani Christian)  Put Homer-Center in the Eastern Conference and they'd be lucky to finish 5th out of 8 and certainly would have difficulty reaching the quarters. 
There are strong and weak conferences in each classification in the WPIAL.  In 3A Apollo-Ridge had a down year, Playing in what is considered to be the weakest of 3A conferences (They are a 2A school playing up), they are smaller in size than Ligonier, West Shamokin, and Marion Center.  Put A-R in the Heritage and they would at least finish in the top three, probably top 2. 
In 6A The two conferences the are really unbalanced.  Pine-Richland, NA, Seneca, Penn Hills, and Central Catholic.  The Southeastern Conference Champion (Bethel Park) lost to the 4th place in the Norther Seven Conference.  Pine Richland will probably play St Joes for the state title in a few weeks. 
In 4A Johnstown was the D6 runner up.  Do you really think they could hang this year with TJ, South Fayette,Belle Vernon, New Castle, and Montour?
The LHAC is one multi-classification conference in District 6.  You can hardly compare them with the entire WPIAL.  you could project how teams would do, but that's about it.  For instance, I think Forest Hills could play very well in the WPIAL 3A.  Could they beat Aliquippa?  probably not, but I would expect them to have a shot at the semi's.  Ligonier and McCort in 2A (they would have gotten crushed by Steel Valley last year, ask Southern Columbia)  This year they would probably get beaten again but not by as much.  This year in 2A Steel Valley, North Catholic, Wash High, and Riverside are in the semi's.  Could Ligonier win 2A in the WPIAL?  All I can tell you is Wash High is a little bit better than Homer-Center or Cambria Heights.  
So to say the WPIAL is over rated is a bit of stretch.  There are bad teams and bad conferences.  On the other hand there are more good teams and more good conferences than any district in the state hands down.  When a team wins a WPIAL championship they generally have beaten at least 3 or 4 very good teams throughout the regular season and play-offs.  Will you be able say that Ligonier beat 3 or 4 really good AA teams or BG beat 3 or 4 really good Single A teams if they win D6?  probably not.  However BG beat a decent 4A team a really good 3A team, and a good 2A team.  Not many "Single A" teams can say that.
And then there is the Blair County All-Stars.  As I've mentioned before no one is going to touch them.  Single A teams do not have rosters of 60 kids.  They don't have 28 juniors and seniors (most are lucky to have that on their roster) so they will beat any team Clairton, Jeannette, Imani, California or whoever they see in Hershey.  It won't be a Juniata Valley type blow out but it will still be convincing.  I have to admit BG is doing a better job of not hitting 50 points this year in the play-offs (you don't want to draw too much attention) especially if you are planning on staying in Single A for the next two years. 
The only thing that may slow down the purple machine is Altoona's move back to D6.  They will start winning again.  Will it be enough to draw players back?  time will tell. 

Re: Bishop Carroll Joins Mountain League as 2A School

Posted: November 17th, 2017, 10:47 am
by dougkeklak
That is an excellent response. While I too am of the opinion that I think the WPIAL tends to be overrated, it's more of glance that a lot of people have that would just look at a WPIAL team vs any other team in the state and just automatically give the nod as favorite to the WPIAL like people don't play football anywhere else. The good teams are very good and they tend to overrate the district as a whole is all. It's hard to compare because they just have so many more schools than other districts.