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Re: Bishop Carroll vs. Vincentian

Posted: March 12th, 2013, 11:24 pm
by WPIAL~Titan
This is the weakest group of teams that WPIAL AA has sent to PIAA boys in at least 20 years. I would not at all be surprised to see a McCort-BFalls western final. The bottom half of the west AA bracket has West Middlesex, McCort, Ctwp and Northern Cambria left. Read between the lines.

WPIAL A has one immensely talented, exceptionally tall team in LP. I checked their roster tonight and did a doubletake. They start 6'9", 6'6", 6'6", 6'5", and 6'0." Their size is absolutely ridiculous for any HS team, let alone a western PA class A team. How does BC even begin to simulate that kind of size??? Give everyone on the scout team a broomhandle at practice when they're defending???????

-A 6'9" jr athlete Elijah Minnie, a probable D1 player with the wingspan of a 7'0" kid who plays on the perimeter and blocks shots like crazy. Long, good ball skills for his size, can even shoot 3s...Raw, but what an athlete.

-A 6'6" freshman named Maverick Rowan who is averaging 22ppg and shooting over 50% from 3pt, a likely future D1 player is he sharpens it up a bit. Incredibly skilled for his size, excellent ball handler and passer. Premier 3pt shooter, smooth fluid release. Not the fastest, but plenty quick/fast for class A basketball. Make him put it ion the floor. When he learns to put it on the deck, look out.

-A 6'6" junior Ryan Skovranko who is an excellent player in his own right, goes strong to the basket, surely a PSAC player at least, Likes to go right. Not the fleetest of foot, but plenty skilled enough.

-A 6'5" sr by the name of Cottrill, probably 225-230lbs and athletic as heck. He may have picked the wrong sport, looks like a SS or LB. Could be a program player at a D2 or a very very good D3 player. Big dunker. Oil up the collapsable rims. Most physical, aggressive player. Brings a physical presence to a team that could otherwise be considered soft.

Heck, LP should be able to throw ME out there with those 4 and win a lot of games in western PA class A boys' basketball. They have 6 losses, 3 to AAAA teams and all very close games (Pine-Richland, Shaler Area, and Seneca Valley), i to a team from Alaska, 1 to Clairton, and an upset loss to Quigley Catholic.

Only 2 of those losses (Seneca Valley and Clairton) occurred since Minnie became eligible to play in mid-January.

I am sure that Bishop Carroll won't be backing down from LP. LP proved it was mortal by losing to Clairton. If Quigley can beat LP, so can Carroll. BC is a very good team in their own right.

Having seen both BC and LP play live this year, it would take a really great performence for BC to beat LP, it would have to be their best performance of the year. However, If Carroll tries to run up and down the court with LP like they did tonight, LP will score >100 points, if the backboards don't get torn down first. The freshman Rowan may score 50. They will have to control the tempo, make excellent decisons offensively and defensively, and mix things up.

Let's not forget that LP is extremly young too. They start 4 underclassmen, and their leading scorer is a freshman.

In essence, LP is nothing more than a 17U AAU team. Lots of talent.

IMHO, to have the best shot to win BC needs to:

-Mix it up on defense...BC cannot sit in a zone the whole game or Rowan will kill them, and Minnie/Skovranko can shoot it too. Some zone, some m2m with ball pressure. Forget zone pressing, LP will just go over the top and get layups/dunks. Watch LP's back screens and alley oops behind m2m or zones. They will go up and get it. Run lots of skips to Rowan for 3s too. DO NOT let Rowan get his feet set. He will kill you. Stand in and take charges. Skovranko, Minnie, and Cottrill will elevate, leave their feet, and get out of control at times.

-Maximize offensive opportunities, get crisp ball movement, solid screens, reverse the ball, find the gaps, go hard to the basket. Take good shots, don't get shoddy or undisciplined and start running the floor. Be careful with passes be crisp, this team is long and gets a ton of deflections, alters shots, passes, etc. Don't fight their traps and pressure. Although this team CAN defend, they often lose interest in defending...Run some offense, some good quick hitters, get the bigger guys out on the perimeter, make them face up and guard you, and take them to the basket...eventually this team will give up guarding the half court if you run good offense and can put it on the floor or skip for 3s/perimeter looks.

-Not be intimidated and go at them. LP will foul. Draw contact and go strong to the basket.

-Stay out of foul trouble. They will need all 5 starters to contribute. At the same time, LP does not have great depth. Get into their bench if you can.

-Keep the game in the 50s, surely <60. As the score gets higher, I see BC being less able to stay competitive.

Just my first impressions, I will think more about it later.

Re: Bishop Carroll vs. Vincentian

Posted: March 13th, 2013, 12:20 am
by ShadePanther98
Would like to see the BC n LP game at Hempfield high school! I'd like to see this game! Good luck to Bishop Carroll

Re: Bishop Carroll vs. Vincentian

Posted: March 13th, 2013, 12:27 am
by Ghost
They are an average team, at best,” Clairton coach Matt Geletko said. “There was nothing they did that caused us to lose. Now the refs …

Clairton surely never thought they could lose, and actually, didn't feel like they wouldn't have lost if it wasn't for the help of the District 9 referees.

“That was probably the worst officiated game that I have ever been a part of,” Geletko said. “Anybody who was here at saw this game would agree. We kind of knew coming in here that these guys never saw a team like us before.”

Even though fouls (15-13 in favor of Clairton) and foul shots (13-9 in favor of Smethport) were nearly even, Geletko was furious with the lack of calls for his team. Geletko had to be restrained a couple of times before eventually picking up a technical foul in the third quarter.

“My biggest problem was that they let them get away with so much”
Smethport stuns Clairton in PIAAs

Love this. I know this a D6 board but wow. Just, wow. I know they aren't used to losing in Clairton very often but really?

Re: Bishop Carroll vs. Vincentian

Posted: March 13th, 2013, 1:36 am
by WPIALD7
Skovranko may end up at Kentucky, Calipari has been visiting him and is looking at him as a 4 year project player to go along with his one and dones.

I'll be surprised if LP doesnt win this game with Carroll, Clairton caught them being lazy(maybe even looking past Clairton) and outhustled them, I doubt another team will catch them unfocused, that loss woke them up.

I like West Middlesex to get to the West final in AA, I think they are the only team that could beat Beaver Falls, BF beat them at the New Castle tip-off tourney 50-40(they beat BF same tourney last year) but both teams were coming off long football seasons and it was just early, they also have a great coach who will learn from that loss. I'm sure BF is hoping someone like McCort knocks WM off. Matt Dogan is one of the best players in the West Bracket.

In AAA, I think Montour will go down to McLane on Friday. If not to McLane, Archbishop Carroll. Teams that live by the 3, usually at some point die by the 3 against a good team. Devin Wilson alone wont be able to carry them all night against the teams with some athletes.

Re: Bishop Carroll vs. Vincentian

Posted: March 13th, 2013, 6:51 am
by WPIAL~Titan
Skovranko is good but Kentucky?

Matt Dogan IS the best player in the west AA bracket period. End of discussion.

Re: Bishop Carroll vs. Vincentian

Posted: March 13th, 2013, 9:20 am
by Crimson's Ghost
The winner of the Bishop McCort-West Middlesex should make the Western Final. I keep hearing about the Dogan kid, guess Ill see the hype tonight for myself. McCort should be able to play with them. They play some tough out of league games, and Nemo Trexler very well could e the best Junior in the Western bracket.

Re: Bishop Carroll vs. Vincentian

Posted: March 13th, 2013, 10:35 am
by WPIALD7
WPIAL~Titan wrote:Skovranko is good but Kentucky?

Matt Dogan IS the best player in the west AA bracket period. End of discussion.

Yeah I think he just wants to take a West PA kid, and as I said, he will be a project.

He was gonna come up around Feb 13th but the Nerlens Noel injury changed that, then he came up about 2 weeks later on the 25th or 26th. He's been looking at him for over a year when he came up last year to watch Lincoln Park play against Cal's old coach Bill Sacco(Cornell) in the WPIAL title game last year

http://www.kentucky.com/2013/02/15/2518 ... -look.html

http://www.timesonline.com/sports/high_ ... 5c87b.html

http://www.nationofblue.com/coach-calip ... skovranko/


I agree, Dogan is the best player in the West.

Re: Bishop Carroll vs. Vincentian

Posted: March 13th, 2013, 11:14 am
by CRUSHER92
BC vs LP Friday at 7 at Hempfield