Rothlisberger not a Pro Bowler?

[lions07]

i don't understand how i controdicted myself... i said he inspired them yes... but they arent' good as a team just b/c of rothlisberger... that is what i meant be him not being a wonderful qb...

[count2infinity]

sometimes rallying the troops is all you need...i think you have a problem accepting the fact that there's someone that came out and became a leader and everyone loves him...you did the same with CR basketball and brian. were you attention deprived as a child or something

[NbBaseballWG5]

The point you have about having all the same players last year is right and I knew that it would come up, but the players that played with Maddox last year didn't play the same as they are now, but they were still good players last year, they just didnt play up to their potential. This season they are, and they have added Ben Roethlisberger this year. He has yet to proove himself as a QB, along with Eli Manning and Philip Rivers. If Eli Manning and Philip Rivers played on the Pittsburgh Steelers right now they would be winning games too. I realize that the Steelers have the same players they did last year..yeaaahhh..they are playing better this year, Ben Roethlisberger is just an add on...and if Tommy Maddox was starting, he'd be doing the same thing..winning...maybe we'll see Sunday whenever they play the Bills, but I hope they lose. The Steelers were bound to be doing as good as they are now, and hopefully the winning stops next year so people will jump off the bandwagon and people will stop wearing Steelers hats and Roethlisberger jerseys and all that...Its pretty pathetic seeing all of this stuff now that the Steelers are winning. Steelers fans last year? nah. Now that their winning? pretty pathetic..

[lions07]

ha ha... detention deprived as a child... that was a good one... but... ben isn't the only reason the steelers are having a great season... just like brian and the bball team... there are 4 other people out there helpin brian but you never hear about them... same way with the steelers... there are 10 other people out there... someone has to catch the pass to get the touchdown to make ben look good don't they... someone needs to take the ball on a hand off and run it... ben certainly doesn't throw the ball then run down the field and catch it does he? no... someone else does... i am just trying to get the point across that there are other people to be credited on the team... like the steelers and the cr bball team... get it?

[count2infinity]

i was a steelers fan last year and still am...there is no bandwagon for me to hop on...i've been on it since i was born. i have to disagree...once again and say that the steelers WOULD NOT be where they are right now if maddox was still playing...no way. and i doubt that rivers or manning could do the same thing in Pittsburgh...just don't see it. Roethlisberger was amazing in college (oh wait he just had good personel around him...sense the sarcasm???) and he is continuing to be amazing in the pros and that's all there is to it

[lions07]

so what you are getting at is ben is the team #1 guy... he was winning in college and still is so that must mean it is all about ben... ok then... take the other 10 guys off the field then let ben go play... see how well he does then

[count2infinity]

that is not what i am saying at all...ben is the leader. not the only one on the field. and the fact of the matter is we won't know how good he is until he plays for a couple years...then we'll start seeing his talents...as for now he's the best (mark this down cause i'm saying it for the record) rookie quarter back ever, and that's something i think he'll go down in the record books as forever!

[NbBaseballWG5]

College is totally different than the NFL....Your not saying that Manning and Rivers did great and college? Oh yeah, I sense the sarcasm. Manning and Rivers didn't have great personnell either, and yet they did as well, or in some cases better then Big Ben. Even the forgotten Ell Roberson did will in college, and Jason White, Matt Leinart. You cant say Ben Roethlisberger is undefeated as a starter, because hes not. The Pittsburgh Steelers are undefeated with Ben Roethlisberger as a starter. Sure, he might be doing something no other rookie hasn't done, but he still hasn't proven himself yet to be a pro bowl quarterback. Ben Roethlisberger still can be a one hit wonder. He might turn out to be Ryan Leaf, yeah, Ryan Leaf. I forgot about him, he did well in college, but was nothing in the pros. Ben Roethlisberger has been in the NFL for one season, there is still lots of time for him to turn into Ryan Leaf. He can still be a one hit wonder. That is what some of you may think, but to me, he hasn't really shown anything yet, just showing off the players he has on his team. He isn't anything yet. Hes not Michael Vick. What do I mean by that? Well hes not a pro bowler. Sure you might not be on the bandwagon, or you might say your not, but there are tons of people who are, and I just hate seeing it. They just come out of nowhere.

[count2infinity]

wait wait wait...ryan leaf was good at one point in the pros like roethlisberger and actually won some games? nah... i don't think that ever happened. i don't like bandwagoners just as much as the next person...but this is the steeler's year. and they need a "captain" or figure head so to speak on the team and this year that is roethlisberger, so get used to it!

[lions07]

i agree 100% with NbBaseballWG5... very very very good points... and you look around now and all you see is steeler this and steeler that... people wearing pins that say big ben 7... where would big ben be without the help pf the entire team? not very far...