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Re: Penguins vs. Sharks: Stanley Cup Final Thread

Posted: June 10th, 2016, 11:52 am
by theoneandonly
What do you mean "Crosby chokes again in the close out game of the finals"? This is the second "close out game" in a final he's ever played in and the Pens won the first (Game 7 2009). 

I'd be willing to bet you were too busy reading a comic book or gaming and not actually watching this game or any others in the finals. The Pens had 398 chances last night but Jones stole a game. It happens. Crosby and others created so many chances and Pens just couldn't bury one. Did you see his backhand pass on the tape to Sheary in the slot that resulted in a loose puck almost being jammed in? Of course not, all you do is look at the stat sheet. Did you see Crosby's slapper from the circle that was ticketed for the top corner but caught about 1/8th of an inch of Jones shoulder and went just high? Of course not. I could go on and on but you'll never get it.

So many people... not Pittsburgh people and not just talking heads... have marveled at how obvious it is that Crosby is the best player on the ice this series and it's not even really close. Obvious to everyone but you. It might be Sunday... it might be Wednesday but Gary Bettman is going to hand that big old hunk of silver to Sid and he's going to skate around and celebrate just like he did 7 years ago. It'll be the 4th time I've got to feel that feeling as a fan.... and it'll be another 40 years until you feel it for the first time. 

Re: Penguins vs. Sharks: Stanley Cup Final Thread

Posted: June 10th, 2016, 4:21 pm
by konjo78
They marvel at his name. He made good passes but so did majority of the pens. I saw a lot more chances coming from malkin, kessel and others than crosby. Again where was he on the empty net goal? He made a poor pass, then didnt even go play defense. 0 points and -2 is what his gameplay was last night. You can use fancy words to try and work around that but he was on the ice for half of the sharks goals, one of which was 100% his fault, and couldnt produce any points.

Re: Penguins vs. Sharks: Stanley Cup Final Thread

Posted: June 10th, 2016, 4:29 pm
by 12HankQB
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Re: Penguins vs. Sharks: Stanley Cup Final Thread

Posted: June 10th, 2016, 6:05 pm
by theoneandonly
Wayne Gretzky doesn't need to marvel at anyone's name. He said it bc it's true. 

You don't get it and you'll never get it. That's okay. You aren't blessed enough to watch him on a nightly basis and enjoy the greatness. Judge him off of one game like you continue to do... The Pens are going to win the Cup and if you don't think he has a massive hand in that then you are even dumber than I thought. Hell I've read more than one article praising him for his play in Game 5... Those guys are probably just childish and obsessed with his name, right? 

Re: Penguins vs. Sharks: Stanley Cup Final Thread

Posted: June 10th, 2016, 6:29 pm
by konjo78
They kinda are... im not saying he is noy having a massive hand. Just not the biggest hand, or second or third biggest hand. I cant call someone the best player in the NHL when they dont even perform as the best player on their team in playoffs.

Again nobody wants to remember that horrific pass and 0 effort on SJ last goal. Why? I dont know? Maybe they are too busy praising his -2 0 point game

Re: Penguins vs. Sharks: Stanley Cup Final Thread

Posted: June 10th, 2016, 6:44 pm
by theoneandonly
I don't know if they announce who finishes second third and etc in Conn Smythe but I'll be willing to bet if he doesn't win (still a possibility) that he finishes top 3. Who cares about that? Lifting the Cup is really all that matters. The Hawks have 3 Cups and Toews has one CS win... does that mean he failed the other two? No.... it means someone was more deserving. You used to call him the best player in the NHL... hell you rode him so hard he probably still hurts. If you can't see he is what makes the Pens go then you really must not watch the games. Stat sheets don't tell everything... look at the faceoff wins and where they occur. Look at back checking. Look at the pass 3 passes ahead. Look at his board work. Look at something besides the stat sheet. 

National and Canadian media love to rip Crosby... they aren't going to go out of their way to say nice things unless they are true. I can't find one other person on the internet bashing his play except you. That tells me all I need to know... He's been the best player on the ice for a vast majority of these Cup Finals. Did you watch Games 1/2? Hell the Sharks were talking about how good he was then. 

So goals against are solely on the forwards... you still put more stock into +/- than anyone I've ever seen. I read articles online every single day from local (burgh) writers to national to canadian... no one mentions that stat with much importance, except you. You must really enjoy going to the beat of your own drum.

I'm sure his heart is broken that a gamer named Konjo doesn't think he is the best player in the game and The Great One does... 

Re: Penguins vs. Sharks: Stanley Cup Final Thread

Posted: June 10th, 2016, 8:08 pm
by konjo78
For all i believe toews and kane are both the top 2 players in the game. Pretty easy there

Re: Penguins vs. Sharks: Stanley Cup Final Thread

Posted: June 10th, 2016, 8:09 pm
by theoneandonly
That answers absolutely nothing. Reading comprehension was never a strong area for you, was it? 

Re: Penguins vs. Sharks: Stanley Cup Final Thread

Posted: June 10th, 2016, 8:12 pm
by konjo78
"Look at something besides the stat sheet" Because stats are facts that show how a game went down. A pitcher can have a mean game but if he lets up 3 hits and it creates 3ERs in the 8th inning whats the point of his prior 7 innings of no hit baseball?

Again im bringing up a pretty simple play that you again avoid. Last goal, his POOR pass and LACK of effort sealed the game for San jose. But hey you can keep looking 3 passes ahead as sharks put it in the net

Re: Penguins vs. Sharks: Stanley Cup Final Thread

Posted: June 10th, 2016, 8:16 pm
by konjo78
As for + - look at games when crosby is a + and when he is a -. Probably is winning the + games and losing the - games. Thats why i value the stat.