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Re: The New PIAA Numbers
Posted: November 26th, 2013, 10:38 pm
by grasshopper
AS OF NOVEMBER 26 THE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS ON THE PIAA WEBSITE ARE FROM 2011.
THE NEW NUMBERS WHICH WILL COVER 2014 & 2015 ARE NOT POSTED YET.
HOW CAN STATEMENTS BE MADE AT THIS DATE WHEN NO ONE ACTUALLY KNOWS FOR SURE
WHAT THE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS ARE.
IN STATING THAT WHAT IS GOING TO BE SAID WHEN THE ENROLLMENT NUMBER FOR BOYS IS
LETS SAY AT PORTAGE 150 AND AT MEYERSDALE ITS 150. BUT COME FOOTBALL TIME PORTAGE
HAS 42 KIDS COME OUT AND MEYERSDALE HAS 31 COME OUT. WILL THE ADULTS START
COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT?
THE PIAA MAKES THE RULES ABOUT THE ENROLLMENT CLASSIFICATIONS AND THEY MAKE THE
RULES ABOUT THE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SCHOOLS AS FAR AS WHERE THEY COMPETE IN THE
PLAY-OFFS.
RULES ARE RULES, THE TABLES ARE SET. THE AREA POPULATION MAY INCREASE BUT THAT DOESN"T
MEAN THERE ARE ANY MORE CHILDREN GOING TO SCHOOL. SENIORS AS IN ADULTS MOVE TO
NURSING HOMES AND THEIR ARE COUPLES WHO WISH TO NOT HAVE CHILDREN. PEOPLE IN REAL
LIFE DO RELOCATE.
THIS IS ONLY HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS FOLKS. CALM DOWN, RELAX, GET THIS UNNEEDED STRESS
OUT OF YOUR LIFE.
Re: The New PIAA Numbers
Posted: November 27th, 2013, 12:06 am
by GreenMachine
grasshopper wrote:AS OF NOVEMBER 26 THE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS ON THE PIAA WEBSITE ARE FROM 2011.
THE NEW NUMBERS WHICH WILL COVER 2014 & 2015 ARE NOT POSTED YET.
HOW CAN STATEMENTS BE MADE AT THIS DATE WHEN NO ONE ACTUALLY KNOWS FOR SURE
WHAT THE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS ARE.
IN STATING THAT WHAT IS GOING TO BE SAID WHEN THE ENROLLMENT NUMBER FOR BOYS IS
LETS SAY AT PORTAGE 150 AND AT MEYERSDALE ITS 150. BUT COME FOOTBALL TIME PORTAGE
HAS 42 KIDS COME OUT AND MEYERSDALE HAS 31 COME OUT. WILL THE ADULTS START
COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT?
THE PIAA MAKES THE RULES ABOUT THE ENROLLMENT CLASSIFICATIONS AND THEY MAKE THE
RULES ABOUT THE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SCHOOLS AS FAR AS WHERE THEY COMPETE IN THE
PLAY-OFFS.
RULES ARE RULES, THE TABLES ARE SET. THE AREA POPULATION MAY INCREASE BUT THAT DOESN"T
MEAN THERE ARE ANY MORE CHILDREN GOING TO SCHOOL. SENIORS AS IN ADULTS MOVE TO
NURSING HOMES AND THEIR ARE COUPLES WHO WISH TO NOT HAVE CHILDREN. PEOPLE IN REAL
LIFE DO RELOCATE.
THIS IS ONLY HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS FOLKS. CALM DOWN, RELAX, GET THIS UNNEEDED STRESS
OUT OF YOUR LIFE.
I get what you're getting at and it's valid to a point, however I don't think ANYONE complain about the level of competition based on how many players were on your roster. Just the the overall amount of boys in grades 9 - 12 and in the private school cases the area they can draw from. Portage has ALWAYS had a huge roster for our size of school. At one point having 70 kids on the team, still didn't win us a district title. Ha Ha
Re: The New PIAA Numbers
Posted: November 27th, 2013, 6:41 am
by Bedrock
In October schools submit their enrollment numbers to the PIAA. The PIAA sends you back your classifications. I don't know of any way to rig the system to ensure you will be in a certain classification. I guess a school could lie about their enrollment, but that would be crazy. Sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't. I know at our school we moved up a classification for the next cycle in one sport by one student.
As far as the school district reimbursement being tied to the enrollment numbers that is not really true. It was a longggggg time ago. They did that at one point probably 20 years ago and now just give percentage increase or decrease based on that enrollment number from back when.
Re: The New PIAA Numbers
Posted: November 27th, 2013, 6:56 am
by Aoki12
GreenMachine wrote:grasshopper wrote:AS OF NOVEMBER 26 THE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS ON THE PIAA WEBSITE ARE FROM 2011.
THE NEW NUMBERS WHICH WILL COVER 2014 & 2015 ARE NOT POSTED YET.
HOW CAN STATEMENTS BE MADE AT THIS DATE WHEN NO ONE ACTUALLY KNOWS FOR SURE
WHAT THE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS ARE.
IN STATING THAT WHAT IS GOING TO BE SAID WHEN THE ENROLLMENT NUMBER FOR BOYS IS
LETS SAY AT PORTAGE 150 AND AT MEYERSDALE ITS 150. BUT COME FOOTBALL TIME PORTAGE
HAS 42 KIDS COME OUT AND MEYERSDALE HAS 31 COME OUT. WILL THE ADULTS START
COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT?
THE PIAA MAKES THE RULES ABOUT THE ENROLLMENT CLASSIFICATIONS AND THEY MAKE THE
RULES ABOUT THE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SCHOOLS AS FAR AS WHERE THEY COMPETE IN THE
PLAY-OFFS.
RULES ARE RULES, THE TABLES ARE SET. THE AREA POPULATION MAY INCREASE BUT THAT DOESN"T
MEAN THERE ARE ANY MORE CHILDREN GOING TO SCHOOL. SENIORS AS IN ADULTS MOVE TO
NURSING HOMES AND THEIR ARE COUPLES WHO WISH TO NOT HAVE CHILDREN. PEOPLE IN REAL
LIFE DO RELOCATE.
THIS IS ONLY HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS FOLKS. CALM DOWN, RELAX, GET THIS UNNEEDED STRESS
OUT OF YOUR LIFE.
I get what you're getting at and it's valid to a point, however I don't think ANYONE complain about the level of competition based on how many players were on your roster. Just the the overall amount of boys in grades 9 - 12 and in the private school cases the area they can draw from. Portage has ALWAYS had a huge roster for our size of school. At one point having 70 kids on the team, still didn't win us a district title. Ha Ha
Yeah honestly I think you are the only one complaining grasshopper lol
Re: The New PIAA Numbers
Posted: November 27th, 2013, 7:34 am
by sydfinch
hornets69 wrote:
I think the numbers on the piaa site are from last cycle. not the newly submitted one.
This is correct. The new cutoff numbers have been announced but not the new enrollment numbers.
The enrollment numbers on the PIAA site are from 2012-13 and 2013-14 cycle. You have to wait for the new enrollment numbers to match them up with the new cutoffs, although I believe the new numbers have been submitted so coaches and school personnel probably already know them.
Re: The New PIAA Numbers
Posted: November 27th, 2013, 11:06 am
by Skippy
I don't think they post the enrollment numbers until after the deadlines for schools to declare if they are playing up.
Re: The New PIAA Numbers
Posted: November 28th, 2013, 10:35 am
by sydfinch
Looks like Dec. 10 is the deadline to declare if you're playing up.