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This is a legitimate question...I'm trying to find understanding in this quote by Jesus: "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill" (Matthew 5:17) How does that fit in with leaving mosaic law behind? Also, where do the 10 commandments fit in with mosaic law? Are they left behind as well?
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the devil believes in God because he has been in his presence... I cannot prove Jesus existed, in fact i've questioned whether Jesus really was the son of God or if he was just a man with a lot of good ideas. I can't prove miracles so i'm not about to come on here and tell you that they've happened, you guys seem to do enough of that already.
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just for the record i have never read the Da Vinci code nor have i seen the movie. i have taken biology, and i've never seen the terms micro and macro, though i have a rough idea of what you're talking about... and yes it's EASIER to believe God made everything, no wonder you guys like that explination....
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answer me this... are protestants going to hell? and that's a legitimate question... following the bible, yeah, they are because they do not do the act of confession.
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What's more believeable? 1) One day millions of year ago a bunch of chemicals were floating about in some water, like some primordial soup. Lightening or sunrays or something struck the water and chemical reactions started to occur in the soup. These reactions kept occurring until things started to move around. These things kept joining together until there were bigger things moving around. Of course another million or so years went by and these moving things got bigger and bigger and eventually crawled out onto the land where they immediately found the right food to eat and could breathe air. By coincidence, 2 identical beings of the opposite sex came out of the soup at the same time and they discovered how to mate with each other, and began to produce offspring. After another million years there were lots of these beings around, and because of mutations, new species were formed. Now everyone was mating and after millions of more years human beings were formed. These humans could think, feel emotion, had all 5 senses, inticate hormones, sophisticated chemical balances, etc etc. or 2) God made man and every living thing. Which one???
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Please show me where in the 66 books of the Bible that the act of confession is mentioned.
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i agree with elmondo. how can anything as complex as a human, an animal, or a plant just happen to evelove so perfectly over time. it is not possible. the earth and everything on it was created by a higher being named god.
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Gettting back to Matthew 5:17. When the Mosaic Law was set down, it was done to teach faithfullness to God, which when carried out gave varying degrees of blessings and rewards in the Kingdom. The problem was, people got so caught up in fulfilling the obligations of the Law, that they forgot about the spiritual intention of the Law. They were doing duties and forgetting about the reason FOR the duties. Matthew 5:17 follows the Sermon on the Mount, where Jesus gives the Beatitudes to the people. He wasn't trying to "show up" the Law, but he wanted to "fulfill" or show the spiritual intention of the Law. And again, the Law was in effect when Jesus lived. When he DIED for our sins, we were released from the duties of the Law. That's why we can eat pork.
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well...first there's this:
Matthew 16:19
"I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."
this is what the movie Dogma is based on... There was a time that the Catholic church was the only Christian church there was... thus they say that you have to confess to have your sins forgiven... according to the bible God must follow suit.

2 Corinthians 5:18-20
All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men's sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation. We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ's behalf: Be reconciled to God
"we are therefore Christ's ambassadors"

John 20:22-23
"And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven."

James5:16
"Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed."

It's in there... just gotta look for it...
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None of these verses support the act of confession of sins to a priest, if that is what you were referring to originally. So I guess if protestants do go to Hell, it's not because of that.
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