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I've said it before, my job is in college atletics. I see the type of kids who get scholarships every year, and a D1a program offering Williams would be a reach and a real risk in my opinion. 6'1" in D1 NCAA football is small. His speed is awesome for this area, but very average in D1a football. Once again, I'm not knocking the kid, but competition is relative. He does a really good job against a bunch of small school, white, average speed offensive players.. but I don't think he is a D1a prospect. I do however think he is a solid NEC or PSAC prospect. If you think I'm crazy, check out some of CalU's linebackers(Williams' prospective position) and tell me if he is on that level. The answer is probably not, and that's only the best D2 team in PA. Granted, they'd probably take it to most of the NEC. If the kid has an offer, I haven't heard anything about it. Just like the Lucas kid had all kinds of "interest" and was "receiving offers" it's probably he-said she-said. If he has a D1a scholarship offer, I recommend he takes it now. As far as the FH comment.. it had nothing to do with the prospects section of my post(given the spacing).

Once again, I want to make clear that I am in no way trying to put any of these kids down. I whole-heartedly believe that Williams is the best defensive player in the LHAC as a junior. I also believe that the LHAC has 0 D1a prospects currently playing. Have a good day

Delaware is a dang good D1aa program and although a reach, it's possible for them to see something they like in the kid. As far as his height, most recruiting sites have him as 6'0" 200lbs or 195lbs, which is more reliable than a Johnstown roster IMHO. As far as dunking a basketball, that's irrelevant..

Williams isnt from Pa. buddy so if your job is to scout talent then check out what he did before he came to Pa. On the other hand im sure you would of never guessed Larod would have made it div.1 let alone to the NFL and be productive the way he is now case Kanuch was bigger and faster than him in high school and the div.1 guys from this area played against the same little white guys they are playing against today. Its just amazing that your beloved rangers who you always talk up never produce that kind of talent. So if your opinion matters then so do mines. haha

Shows athleticism.And Coaches do follow kids that play football. We had football coaches at our Basketball practices in High School a number of times. Pitt's Defensive Tackle last year, Mick Williams was 6"1 290 and could throw down. Thats a lot more impressive.

I don't see why a team like Villanova or in their conference might not take a chance. He is a good athlete.




Also coaching? He is a prospect out of PA, played his whole HS career here. Who cares what he did before he got here? And Johnstown has had 4 D1 prospects the past decade, Forest Hills has had zero. But at the same time Forest Hills has probably 35 more wins during that stretch and actually won the LHAC a few times. It's not all about D1. Going into this year McCort was 26-2 for a 2 year stretch and didn't have one kid play in D1 A.

Williams played in PA starting his freshman season. No recruiters pulling up what he did in junior high, he's not a Reggie Bush talent. Why would I have ranked LaRod behind Kanuch? They played during different seasons, and the general consensus was that Kanuch would run track in college. He was never a great football talent and had won multiple state titles in track. LaRod was an outstanding football product, a blind man could see that. Not sure what you're getting at here.. but if you are trying to put Williams in LaRod's shoes you are setting unrealistic expectations for the kid. Let him go, people like you talking him up is what hurts him because then the people like me have to set you straight. Yes they played against the same kids, but the kids who went D1 had outstanding size or speed. No one in the LHAC now possesses either in D1a terms. Not to mention, when LaRod played we saw some ofthe best talent throughout the conference this area has ever seen. Last season we saw 4 teams from the LHAC make the state playoffs, and 0 from the LHAC had a kid go D1a. Sure your opinion matters... just not to me or anyone else with college football knowledge.

It's frustrating, but I know I'll be labeled a "hater" or be told I'm "taking shots at a kid" for being realistic. For those of you that have these big dreams for a kid, that's great. Just try not to post them on a message board and put added pressure onto a kid.

well put, i usually agree with you on that

Crimson, I agree with you it shows athleticism. But you'll often see that more for lineman than skill players as a vertical is more a measure of power. It shows some athleticism, but there is obviously much more to it for skill players. For a DT, a vertical can show how he'll fire off the ball. My point was, the kid being 200 pounds and 6'0"-6'1" and being able to dunk is not "special" athleticism.

As far as NOVA taking a chance on him.. it's possible. Sure. But I wouldn't put my money on it. Remember NOVA is a top tier D1-aa school, and is in the Philly area where they can hand pick almost any D1 recruit who wants to stay local by selling the fact that they win more than temple.

Harris boys went to Maine. Williams is comparable to Derek Harris. He was there more on his brother's merits,IMO. But still was a good enough athlete to play ball.

For sure. Like I said, he can play D1-aa ball. Maine has to go a lot farther to find recruits than NOVA. I'm sure he'll probably gain some interest from SFU, Duq., RMU, etc. If he's lucky he'll see interest from schools like JMU, Liberty, and other big time FCS schools. At the end of the day though, most kids would rather play PSAC ball than NEC ball the majority of the time.

Some great points laker. The OG can't stand the constant D1 garbage either. Then people act like saying D2-D1AA is a knock on a kid. People who havn't played at those levels don't understand how good you have to be to start there. People don't realize how great you have to be to play at D1 A. You said a lot of good stuff in your last couple posts.

I do not agree about the dunking comment though. College coaches are always interested in what type of an athlete you are. In fact, great read on Mike Williams from USA today on ESPN.Com, where the coach admits to wanting the kid after watching him play basketball.

Also...the OG still doesn't get why you continue to hate on this year's FH team. The least talented team in the last 4 years at FH? C'mon man, you're drinking some serious mid 00's Kool-aid. This team is very, very, talented. Oh, btw...Mid 00's was not the best the LHAC ever was...