GOP Agenda

[D-nice]

what moral code should be applied then? the rule of law? what does that mean ?sounds like something bill clinton would come up with to me.

[LionPride]

The one question that comes to mind as I read all these posts putting down Christianity. What Christian Church do you attend to get all these ideas?

Certainly there have been radicals in the past that have taken this way too far - but that has happened in every religion. How in the world can you compare that to what is happening today with Christianity? It's not even close.

I have yet to attend a church that told me I have to go out and force my religion down everyone's throats. Of course, if someone is in need of something, I am expected to offer my religion to them and to help them with that if they are willing to except it.

I don't think any of us have ever said that someone who isn't a Christian is going to Hell. Never. Where do you guys get that from?

Just because most conservatives are Christians does not mean we're going to go out and burn people at the stake. Do we believe Christianity is the correct religion? Of course we do. But that does not mean that we do not respect the religion of others.

I am a firm believer that if you are taught Christianity and believe in the principles of the religion, then you ought to practice it. But if someone is never taught Christianity, I am also a firm believer that if they lived a good life, they will be rewarded too. I don't believe that if you hijack an airplane and kill thousands of people that your reward in the afterlife is heaven and 72 virgins.

I just find it very disheartening that some of you have resorted to lumping Christians of today in with those from the Crusades, the Salem Witch Trials and comparing Christians to tyrants. Think before you put such nonense down please.

[southpaw]

LP the other side really is having a hard time figuring out what happened with the election. They lost and don't know why. By labeling republicans as evangelicals or just dumb country rednecks it makes them feel better. The alternative is unthinkable... That most Americans don't agree with their views anymore.

[fleaflicker]

I'm just saying that Christianity in the extreme is a bad thing. And I did go to a church that emphasized attendance, getting more people, and being free from sin, as well as how every other religion was wrong and we somehow needed to convert them. At least that's what it seemed like to me.

The moral code that most concerns me, and we should worry about most, is whether or not our words or actions harm our fellow man. Nobody needs religion to tell right from wrong; common sense should tell you that. However, a few people need religion to actually act like they know right from wrong. But as far as legal law goes, I'd be happy if it was law based on whether or not an action is harmful to our fellow man, whether physically, financially, or liberty.

[Lemmy]

“In your re-election, God has graciously granted America—though she doesn't deserve it—a reprieve from the agenda of paganism.”

“Put your agenda on the front burner and let it boil. You owe the liberals nothing. They despise you because they despise your Christ.”

“If you have weaklings around you who do not share your biblical values, shed yourself of them.”
Bob Jones

"We are hopeful that in these next four years, the president may get two, three, four appointments to the (Supreme) court and we believe—we all trust George Bush. We believe in George Bush. I personally think he's the most overtly and open Christian that's been in the White House in my lifetime.”
Jerry Falwell

"Now comes the revolution," Richard Viguerie, the dean of conservative political mailers


James Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family and an influential evangelical Protestant who endorsed a presidential candidate for the first time and worked to increase conservative Christian turnout, said he had issued a warning to a "White House operative" who called Wednesday morning to thank him for his help.
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Dobson said that after telling the caller that many Christians believed the country was "on the verge of self-destruction" as it abandoned traditional family roles, he argued that "through prayer and the involvement of millions of evangelicals, and mainline Protestants and Catholics, God has given us a reprieve."
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"But I believe it is a short reprieve," he continued, adding that conservatives now had four years to pass an amendment banning same-sex marriage, to stop abortion and embryonic stem-cell research and, most of all, to remake the Supreme Court. "I believe that the Bush administration now needs to be more aggressive in pursuing those values, and if they don't do it I believe they will pay a price in four years," he said, referring to the Republican Party.

[once a runner]

I don't believe pointing out flaws in Christianity, past or present, makes one against Christianity. Does Christianity have a monopoly on morality? All major religions, extremists aside, have the same basic morals....they all believe killing is wrong, lying is wrong, adultry is wrong, etc. As was pointed out earlier, they all have some version of the golden rule.

http://www.homeworship101.com/golden_rule.htm

In my opinion, the founding fathers wanted a government based on basic human morals. They just didn't want one church to dictate those morals.

[fleaflicker]

Well, I can tell you one thing: Many of these people here would love a government where priests and preachers would rule the day on the Supreme Court.

[LionPride]

fleaflicker - you're pretty high on yourself to think that you don't need a higher power in your life. I wish you the best of luck, and I hope some day you can put your ego aside and realize that to be trully happy you need to put some faith in your life.

Southpaw is right, you guys are just really mad that you lost and you refuse to believe that maybe, just maybe the majority of Americans are not buying into your liberal way of thinking.

Regardless of what you think about me (like I really care), I am not a Bible toting, fire breathing preacher. I don't force my religion on anyone, but if someone wants to talk to me about it, I'm more than happy to share my views. I'm just an ordinary American that believes in the fundamentals of the Christian faith, and I'm sick and tired of the liberal views being pushed on me as being right, when I know a lot of you want me to believe is wrong. And guess what, more Americans showed up and agreed with me on election day than ones that agreed with you. Do I think all liberals are God-less heathens? No way. I attend church with a lot of people that voted for Kerry, and I know them to be very true to their faith. But I do believe that the far left of your party would like to take you to a place that can only be bad for everyone.

And if George Bush appoints some Supreme Court judges that apply their faith to their decisions, my only reply is, it's about time. Note, I did not say make their decisions as religous only - I said apply their faith to their decisions. There's a difference, only you refuse to see it.

Now, come on with your liberal views and put me down - I could care less. I'm done with you.

[CRLionDawg]

Flea, who in here is advocating a mandate that all must become Christians? That is a choice that each of us as humans must make. It is a result of our free-will.

I have yet to read in here anyone who is stating that a "holy war" be fought to rid the world of those who reject Christ.

[southpaw]

Labeling and name calling that is what liberals are reduced to. The great silent majority that Nixon and Reagan talked about is not so silent anymore. By quoting extremists and demonizing ministers they try to lump all people from the "red states" together. Keep it up its really working.