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Is this how it starts?

Posted: April 15th, 2016, 3:47 pm
by abpk2903
Beginning in 2017, NBA teams are now allowed to sell a 2.5" X 2.5" ad space on their uniforms.

You know as soon as owners across all of sports see how much money corporate America is willing to dump into a uniform patch, it would be long until jerseys look like the quarter panel of a NASCAR. IMO opinion this will expand to all pro sports within a decade. Why wouldn't owners want a extra $50 million of revenue just by slapping on a logo?

How many years until we have the Pittsburgh Starkist Tuna's (formally the Pittsburgh Pirates)?

Re: Is this how it starts?

Posted: April 15th, 2016, 4:33 pm
by Crimson's Ghost
European Soccer really got that going, it was only a matter of time the four main American leagues followed. I've never met or heard of a business owner that would turn away easy money.

Re: Is this how it starts?

Posted: April 15th, 2016, 7:57 pm
by Sykotyk
Crimson's Ghost wrote:European Soccer really got that going, it was only a matter of time the four main American leagues followed. I've never met or heard of a business owner that would turn away easy money.
Actually, it was poor teams in poor countries that started the trend. The 'big leagues' and 'big clubs' were initially above it until they realized it helped make the smaller clubs and leagues competitive. So, they jump on the bandwagon, which ups their revenue, and puts them even further ahead of the smaller clubs and leagues. Most other countries outside of Europe have ads for almost every sport.

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That's Galatasaray's basketball team from Turkey (they're primarily known for their soccer team). Historical note: they're the European team that Allen Iverson went to.

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Even national team play in hockey (IIHF World Juniors Championship) had advertisements. I believe the Women's Championship did, too. And those are national teams doing it.

MLB already does it for games played in Japan (see: http://news.sportslogos.net/2014/09/22/ ... -baseball/ )

And, don't forget, one of southwest Pennsylvania's professional sports teams has sported a logo, or variant, created by U.S. Steel Corp, now owned by AISI and was originally suggested by Republic Steel of Cleveland, Ohio that it be put on the Steelers helmet. For free, I might add.

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The Detroit Pistons started by Fred Zollner who made Zollner Pistons. So, when he started an NBA team in Fort Wayne they were named.... the Fort Wayne Zollner Pistons. When they moved to Detroit, they dropped the Zollner part and became the Detroit Pistons.

One of the most iconic teams in the NFL, the Green Bay Packers started in the NFL as the ACME Packers (originally the Indian Packing Co. started the team) before eventually giving way to the term and calling themselves the Green Bay Packers. The NFL did a nice little whitewash of making sure their record books always refer to them as the Green Bay Packers, however.

Re: Is this how it starts?

Posted: April 15th, 2016, 7:57 pm
by Sykotyk
Another early NFL team was the Tonawanda Kardex of surburban Buffalo. The American Kardex Company was a making of index cards and sponsored the team. Their real nickname was the Lumbermen, but most (including them NFL) list their nickname in records as the Tonawanda Kardex. I know, because I've more than a few times wrote to the NFL or the hall of fame for some of their early records back before the days of the internet and sites such as pro-football-reference.

Even more recently, we had a team named after a movie franchise: the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim.
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And long before that ever happened, there were stadium naming rights. Some of which may surprise you. Partly because it was the team owners who slapped their own company's names on the parks their teams played in. Wrigley Field was the eponymous name given to it by the team's owner, whose business bore the same name.

Three major league teams are owned by the families of alcohol producers, simply so they can put their family name (which happens to be the name of a beer) on the stadium. One, went so far as to create an entirely new brand of beer (Busch) just so their named stadium in St. Louis could also be advertising alcohol (MLB banned beer brands from being used for stadium names, but not family names such as the case with Miller and Coors in Milwaukee and Denver, respectively).

Even as some of the stadiums progress, eventual holdouts give way. Cleveland's trio of Jacobs Field and Gund Arena (both named after their primary team owners) and Municipal Stadium and eventually Cleveland Browns Stadium (named after the city and the new stadium after the team) eventually gave way to the corporatized Progressive Field, Quicken Loans Arena, and FirstEnergy Stadium. The last city to not have one of it's Big Four teams playing in a sponsored park's name (not counting Green Bay, as that is the Milwaukee market and exist due to a rather interesting story of NFL history. Though it involves HS Football, so it's worthy here).

But, we've long since gone from the days of Forbes Field, Three Rivers Stadium, Civic Arena, Buffalo Auditorium, Riverfront Stadium, Veterans Stadium, the Spectrum, Pontiac Silverdome, King Dome, Astrodome, Georgia Dome, Louisiana Superdome, Texas Stadium, Joe Robbie Stadium, Soldier Field, Mile High Stadium, Candlestick Park, Memorial Coliseum, Jack Murphy Stadium, Hubert H Humphrey Metrodome, Arrowhead Stadium, Foxboro Stadium, etc.

But, there is one name, that might seem a bit interesting in all this 'sports sponsorship'...

The Rose Bowl. The Grandaddy of them All. Was nothing more than a game put on and namesake sponsored by the Tournament of Roses to go along with their Rose Parade events that week. The stadium they built for it, the famed Rose Bowl, again, was named for them by them. To promote themselves.

Sports is a vehicle for sponsorship. It is not the other way around. Want to take sponsorship out of sports. Best to find a ball and glove and head out to the backyard. Because that's the only place a sponsor hasn't found a way in.

Re: Is this how it starts?

Posted: April 15th, 2016, 8:17 pm
by Sykotyk
*- Side trip into the reason we have the Green Bay Packers -*

1925, the NFL was in its early years. The city of Philadelphia had 'blue laws' that refused to allow games on Sunday. The NFL team, the Frankford Yellow Jackets played in what is now known as just Philadelphia. They played on Saturday usually to avoid the law. Another team nearby, the Pottsville Maroons played in a much smaller city but took advantage of Philadelphia's blue law by playing games on Sunday.

This allowed traveling NFL teams to play Frankford on Saturday and turn around and play Pottsville on Sunday. CTE obviously wasn't a concern in those days. Since scheduling was left up to the teams, you simply had a window of time to schedule as many or as few games as you wanted. To be champion, though, you had to have the best record. At the time, ties counted as if the game wasn't played. Today, they're counted as a half win/half loss. So, you had two teams, the Chicago Cardinals and the Pottsville Maroons as the two best teams in the NFL. They sported the same winning percentage. And a game between the two was scheduled to decide once and for all the championship.

The game was played, and Pottsville won. In their exuberance, they scheduled a game with in Philadelphia as a post-season exhibition against a team of Notre Dame all-stars. Frankford objected, as they claimed it infringed on their territory. Pottsville tried to claim that it was after the season (it wasn't, the NFL year still had some time left) and it wasn't an NFL game they were playing.

Still, the NFL suspended Pottsville and prevented them from being able to claim the championship. So, the title would go to Chicago and the Cardinals.

HOWEVER, during that time after the loss to Pottsville, Chicago decided to bring in some shlub NFL teams that had already called it quits to get enough wins to tip the winning percentage in their favor before the end of the league season. One of those teams? The Milwaukee Badgers, a team so bad, they had given up and simply stopped playing once they were easily out of contention. The Cardinals had paid them, and other teams, to get the band back together so the Cards could whip them. To fill out the squad, the Badgers contracted the services of several high school players. Which, was, again, against the rules.

The Cardinals and Badgers were punished by the league for this. Pottsville claimed the game shouldn't count, but they had already been suspended by the league. Milwaukee was forced out of the league and basically blacklisted from getting another team. As the NFL stabilized, Green Bay became the only football team in the area without resorting to traveling south to support the rival Chicago teams. The Packers then started playing games in Milwaukee to stay afloat in the 1930s and didn't stop until the mid 1990s.

If not for the Badgers playing four HS players in a game against the Cardinals, the Milwaukee market probably would've had a team and the Packers probably would've went under sometime around the mid-30s when they wouldn't have been able to tap into the Milwaukee market with home games.

Re: Is this how it starts?

Posted: April 16th, 2016, 8:54 am
by Manfred
Interesting read. Thanks.