Thursday Scoreboard 2-28-19

[costanza]

[s]The "grew up in the Catholic system" comment needs to go.....that counter-argument is getting old. This is still an area that has kids from a city(Altoona)  plus hollidaysburg/duncansville, plus other parts of the county.  West Branch, as an AA example, has kids that "grew up in their system" too. But from a much different selection population-wise and geographically.  That's why people get upset about the whole thing.[/s]

[costanza]

Sorry about that line through all the words....

[FunFacts]

West branch is not good at all... the fact they made states shows how weak D6 AA was this year aside from BG. Saw the head coach was making remarks in the news how it’s hard beating catholic schools. All of BGs basketball player except for maybe one or two have grew up in the BG school systems. They just work a lot harder than everybody else in the class. West branch has one kid that can handle the ball decently to good. The rest... idk if some of them can dribble with their non dominant hand. The WB team a few years ago with Krise, Trude and then was legit and would’ve beaten this WB team by 50 as well

Whether they came into the system in 4th grade or 10th grade is irrelevant.  You still have some of the best athletes from multiple schools playing together to make a super team that a normal public schools can’t compete with.  Yes every now and then a great group comes through an A or AA public school but that’s once every 10 or 15 years and none of them win 3 playoff games by an average of over 50 points.  After that the school usually falls back to a middle of the pack team for a while.  JV was great this year but they won’t be close to the team they are this year next year.  Saltsburg and Homer Center had really good teams a few years ago and now they are back to below average teams.  West Branch just had a solid team and now are going to fall way back to average for the next few years.  It has nothing to do with their programs or coaches.  It has to do with the lack of athletes that were born in a particular year in their district.  BG doesn’t have that limit and anyone who doesn’t realize that is crazy.  They are following the rules but there is a difference between right and wrong compared to fair and unfair.  BG has done nothing wrong outside of the rules.  They have a great coach who does a great job and teaches his kids to play the game the right way.  It just isn’t a fair fight right.  It’s like asking a 240 pound state champion wrestler to wreslte a 113 pound wrestler who finished 4th in his district.  There is almost nothing the 113 pound wrestler can do. He will give it all he has and leave everything out there but short of a mricale he will get pinned in the first minute 

[BasketballFan12345]

I’m not gonna try and defend Guilfoyle’s football team cause obviously they’ve gotten players from outside of the Altoona area, but are you really going to throw a fit simply because a team was better by saying “oh they are a catholic school.” West Branch wasn’t crying when they beat McCort who pulls players from all over Johnstown. It’s only when a team loses that they pull the “Catholic school” card. Guilfoyle’s entire b-ball roster was raised up within that school district and their young kids are developed early. Also, you can say the area for Guilfoyle to get kids is bigger than west branch. But guilfoyle also has to compete with 5A Hollidaysburg and 6A Altoona to get kids. Do you really want to separate teams like guilfoyle, and Carroll into a catholic playoff division where they’d probably run into teams that pull players from different states and even countries?? Of course public schools would feel like it’d be fair, but how’s that fair on Catholic schools such as guilfoyle?

[GoldenRamsFAN]

I’m not gonna try and defend Guilfoyle’s football team cause obviously they’ve gotten players from outside of the Altoona area, but are you really going to throw a fit simply because a team was better by saying “oh they are a catholic school.” West Branch wasn’t crying when they beat McCort who pulls players from all over Johnstown. It’s only when a team loses that they pull the “Catholic school” card. Guilfoyle’s entire b-ball roster was raised up within that school district and their young kids are developed early. Also, you can say the area for Guilfoyle to get kids is bigger than west branch. But guilfoyle also has to compete with 5A Hollidaysburg and 6A Altoona to get kids. Do you really want to separate teams like guilfoyle, and Carroll into a catholic playoff division where they’d probably run into teams that pull players from different states and even countries?? Of course public schools would feel like it’d be fair, but how’s that fair on Catholic schools such as guilfoyle?

If the private and public schools do split, I think you will see some kids from other states and countries coming and playing for them. I don’t think any 5*s are going to those schools but you never know. Look what Kennedy Catholic has been doing for quite some time now. 

[FunFacts]

You made my point for me.  No one cares when things are good for them until they reach someone who does something unfair to them.  West Branch beat McCort so nothing was said.  When they got killed by BG it was frustrating. BC rolled everyone a few years ago and then cried when they ran into Lincoln park and got killed. Then the Charter schools are unfair according to them.  How they feel about the charter schools is how public schools feel about private schools.  It’s a fight you can only win 1 out of 10 times if ever.  No one cares if you want to put a great team together but when that team can win A through AAAAAA in your district it’s frustrating for the smaller schools because there is nothing they can do because they lack the athletes.  Like I said before BG hasn’t done anything wrong it just makes an unfair fight due to having kids from a wider area. It’s why everyone was happy when Kennedy Christian finally decided to play 6A this year instead of 1A like last year.  It’s just a more even fight.

[BasketballFan12345]

You’re ludicrous if you compare teams like Guilfole abs Carroll to teams like Lincoln Park, Kennedy and Math Civics and Sciences. If you want to be the best, you got to work hard and beat the best including the “recruiting Catholic” schools in D6. Just cause they have a bunch of good kids grow up through their system and they are good means they should be penalized with playing Lincoln Park in a different league playoff?? Imagine if guilfoyle wasn’t a catholic school and they were just a regular public school. They’d have the same players previously and right now and no one would complain at all just because they aren’t a “catholic” school. Still speaking b-ball terms...

[Manfred]

BasketballFan12345:  "except for maybe".  That right there is the gist of the whole argument, isn't it?  You can't admit the fact that they are playing by different rules.

[GoldenRamsFAN]

Catholic schools don’t have boundaries so it’s easy to say they “grew up” in the district. I kid that lives 45 mins away is still technically in the district. Where as public schools have boundaries

[Blueandwhitefan]

I’m not gonna try and defend Guilfoyle’s football team cause obviously they’ve gotten players from outside of the Altoona area, but are you really going to throw a fit simply because a team was better by saying “oh they are a catholic school.” West Branch wasn’t crying when they beat McCort who pulls players from all over Johnstown. It’s only when a team loses that they pull the “Catholic school” card. Guilfoyle’s entire b-ball roster was raised up within that school district and their young kids are developed early. Also, you can say the area for Guilfoyle to get kids is bigger than west branch. But guilfoyle also has to compete with 5A Hollidaysburg and 6A Altoona to get kids. Do you really want to separate teams like guilfoyle, and Carroll into a catholic playoff division where they’d probably run into teams that pull players from different states and even countries?? Of course public schools would feel like it’d be fair, but how’s that fair on Catholic schools such as guilfoyle?

YES!!!!!! THEY SHOULD SEPERATE!!!!!