Gunner's Political Platform

[once a runner]

Gunner, I don't know why our military doesn't supply our soldiers with essential equipment. That doesn't mean the military isn't funded heavily. The war is costing around 2 billion a week...you would think some of that would go to essential equipment. Every organization has its share of waste. I would think that in a time of war, that the priorities of where the money are spent would change.

As to your comparison to fryboy.....does fryboy have his housing paid for? Does he get medical benefits? Is McD's going to pick up part of his college costs when he quits? Will he have pension and VA benefits after 20 years of service? His initial paycheck may be more than yours, but when you factor in everything, you make far more.

Pale....question for you....if you lived on the east coast and had settled into a comfortable life, would you move knowing what you know now?

[Gunner18]

the fryboy from mcdonalds probly lives with his parents so he doesnt have to pay for housing, there are grants and scholarships to pay for his college, and if he has any inteligence at all he'll know to start his own retirement fund, not to mention that mcdonalds offers 401k's. anyone can get the benefits offered by the military if they just use their head.


also, your question to pale...
the only difference between the super tsunami and katrina is HISTORY, believe it or not, hurricanes are an annual force that Nawlins and the gulf and most coastal states must deal with. granted a cat 4/5 is rare, but it is still a threat that must be considered every year. now i all but failed senior history, but i dont believe theres been a super tsunami take out 100 miles of the eastern coast for quite some time, correct me if im wrong tho.

[Pale Rider]

Gunner- Do you think they expected the one last year in the Indian Ocean? Look at what happened on the east coast of Africa and Mozambique, a couple thousand miles away. Also, we have never seen HALF of a sizeable island just break off and fall into the ocean. Does that mean it will NEVER happen? OAR- As I get older, I take less risks. I'm not one to bury my head in the sand, but I hope I have enough common sense to live out a long and full life. If that would mean moving away from the ocean, it would be a tough choice if I really enjoyed the ocean. But I feel it is a nice place to visit, but I'll stay here. No major quakes, an occasional deep snowstorm, occasional flash flood, occasional twister. I live on a hilltop surrounded by trees (not that close to my house). Elevation approx. 1700 feet ABOVE sea level. If something catastrophic happened while I was visiting the "flatlanders", it would have been my grand misfortune to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, and I would pay the ultimate price for it. My choice. God bless all those stupid enough to choose to ignore obvious warnings.

[Gunner18]

i dunno pale, afterall jtown flooded a few decades ago, i dont know why anyone would want to live up that way knowing that such a thing happend! :lol:

[Gunner18]

ooops i forgot to argue something....

6th:
anyone opposing the government will be offered free transportation to afghanistan, because apparently they arent satisfied with life here so lets help them out and show them just how great they have it.


So the whole freedom of speech thing is meaningless? Or is just ok to speak your mind if you agree with the government. Too bad this wasn't a law during the Clinton administration.....Rush would be broadcasting from Afghanistan now. This sounds an awful lot like communism to me.....once you disagree with government, you're a criminal? The 2 party system may not be perfect, but it's far superior to the one party system.

people can all the freedom of speech they want, all im saying is that if they think this government is so horrible and that America is goin to hell in a handbasket, then why dont we just offer them the chance to see what a horrible government and a country that has already been to the dark world in a handbasket actually feels like...i bet after a few weeks of living in a cave in fear of your life for oposing the government would change their views about the Bush administration

[Pale Rider]

In 1977, the "morning after", I woke around 8 am. The power had been off all night from the severe storm. It was a bright sunny morning after the storm. I first noticed a constant string of vehicles going both ways along our normally quiet paved secondary road. I was to find out later that ours was the only road for miles that had access to both sides of St. Michael/ Sidman, as both were cut in half by the flash floods that also wiped out Johnstown. You could also get to Richland via our road, but from there, was nowhere to go. The only way into Johnstown from the east was via Rt. 53, AKA Frankstown Road/ hill. After a day, I was able to get down into Jtown via 53 on my 750 Honda, I wasn't taking my car. So as you have heard, I live in a fairly safe area. NOT FLOOD CITY!

[once a runner]

[quote="Gunner18";p="102859"]the fryboy from mcdonalds probly lives with his parents so he doesnt have to pay for housing, there are grants and scholarships to pay for his college, and if he has any inteligence at all he'll know to start his own retirement fund, not to mention that mcdonalds offers 401k's. anyone can get the benefits offered by the military if they just use their head.[/quote]
Gunner, you're comparing someone in high school with someone who has gone out in the world to make a living. That's hardly a fair comparison. Nobody can survive away from mommy and daddy making fries at McDonalds. How many people do you know that had even "most" of their college paid for through grants? Most people do it through loans. To obtain a high paying grant you better be very smart, very athletic or know someone in very high places. Anyone working for minimum wage isn't exactly thinking of 401k's. They are thinking of survival.

[ham55]

New Orleans is at the mouth of the Mississippi, and anything wanting to get to the north had to go through there, why not have a city there, it makes perfect sense for back in the 1800's, and it's still used as a great port(the 4th largest in the world I believe, or at least it was), THAT's why they built the city there.

[Gunner18]

runner, are you willing to bet that there are no graduates from 2004 working at mcdonalds (or someplace similar) and still living with their parents?


and ham, good point about being a port city, but why not move inland a little bit? leave the port there and build the city 100 miles or so to the north, youd still have all the flow of the mississippi but less chance of natural disaster

[once a runner]

Gunner, are the 2004 graduates at McD's earning a pension, getting medical benefits, having McD's share in their college fund? When you add up everything you are getting from the military, it is FAR more than anyone working at McDonalds.

Also Gunner, I just finished reading what you wrote in the FH/Bedford thread in the football forum. There you say it's quite ok to criticize HS athletes because it shows them what they are doing wrong. So why is it NOT ok to criticize the government? Certainly the government getting things right is far more important than that of a HS athlete. It just seems a bit hypocritical to be allowed to criticize HS kids and not the government.

It's quite possible that someone can be critical and still love what they criticize. I noticed that some of those criticizing Bedford football players are diehard Bedford fans. Along the same lines, one can be critical of their government and still love their country.