Pitt Bozos Worse than we Know

[The Ancient Enemy]

Look at this. Yes what you say is true, Moldy. However, how is Texas' road more deserving, at this point, of a #2 ranking when they beat 1 good team so far. FSU beat TWO so far, and has a string of conference foes in the top 25 right now that they have to contend with. Texas has Texas Tech. Texas Tech is good for putting 80 on I-AA teams. Look at what Tech has done in the past against good teams. Past success has no place in rankings, but it DOES have a place in long-term perception. Texas lucked out and ended up with a weak conference this season. If OU was as good as usual, would UT be talked about this much? Hell no.

[deliverance]

Totally agree El-Moldo. I still think Texas has a tough schedule. That's just my opinion. I mean you have your own opinion on that, TAE. I agree they don't have the toughest schedule in football. However, they have a much tougher schedule than most teams in college football. All those teams are tougher than Pitt and most of the teams they play. Most of them teams would beat the Big 10 teams with the exceptions of Michigan, Ohio State, and maybe Michigan State. Once again, just my opinion.

[The Ancient Enemy]

Deliverance, who are these teams you speak of? Oklahoma State has taken a HUGE step backwards since losing Les Miles to LSU. They have squeaked by THREE crappy teams. OU, as you know, is way down. A&M is being A&M and are already a disappointment. Texas Tech is always good for 3 loses a season, because they can't beat anyone better than them. The Big 12 North is chaos once again because none of those teams are any good on a national scale. Who are you referring to????

[deliverance]

Well, first off Oklahoma is a good team having a bad season. They are 1-2. They'll still make a bowl game. Just remember 3 games doesn't make a season. Colorado is 2-0. They've played about the same teams as Penn State has. Texas Tech is ranked #19 in the nation. They're also 2-0. They've won both games by a huge margin. They could be undefeated when they play Texas. Anytime you play an undefeated team makes it a lot tougher. Oklahoma State is 3-0 right now, too. They have to play them at OK State. Also, throw in Texas A&M at A&M whose record is only 1-1 right now. Only because of a close loss to a good Clemson team. Heck, even Kansas is 3-0 at this point. That's a lot of undefeated teams at this point in the season. You have to figure maybe 6 of the teams Texas plays this season makes it to a bowl game. These teams haven't played the best of teams, but it's much better to start out 3-0 than 0-3 as you've stated many of times with Pitt and Penn State. Now if you're saying these teams are bad. Then you don't know what you're talking about.

[The Ancient Enemy]

You've got to be kidding me with this.

Oklahoma State:
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(3-0)

09/03 Montana St: W 15-10
09/08 at FAU: W 23-3
09/17 Arkansas St: W 20-10


Look at those scores!!!! Have you seen how bad this team is? They have been on TV twice!

A I-AA team, a team playing it's first season as I-A, and a cellar-dweller from the Sun Belt, the worst conference in football.


Texas Tech:
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(2-0)

09/10 Fla Int'l: W 56-3
09/17 Sam Houston: W 80-21

You know who they play this week? INDIANA STATE! This is the first season Fla International is I-A! Those other two teams are STILL I-AA!


Kansas:
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(3-0)

09/03 FAU: W 30-19
09/10 App St: W 36-8
09/17 La Tech: W 34-14

FAU: 1st I-A season. App. State: I-AA. La. Tech: not good at all.




Out of 27 wins by Big 12 teams, 7 are over I-AA teams. 4 are over teams playing their first season as I-A. Tonight, your mighty Aggies take on... TEXAS STATE.

Buy a clue, deliverance.

[deliverance]

Wins are wins. I don't care who they're against. Pitt has lost to Nebraska and Notre Dame. Does that get them something special? No, it doesn't. Maybe you don't realize that. It doesn't matter who you play in the NCAA. If that was the case, USC wouldn't be #1 right now. Texas would. You need to get a clue on this. It's better to be 3-0 than 0-3. You can be 0-3 and lose to USC, Texas, and LSU. That doesn't mean theres something special about being 0-3. Just wait and see, TAE. Just wait and see.

[El-Moldo]

Lousiana Tech not good at all? Florida International is in it's 1st year of I-A football? I notice that PSU has them on their HOME schedule in 2006 and 2007 respectively.

[The Ancient Enemy]

I'll tell you what it gets them. It gets them repeatedly made fun of by The Ticket (Dallas sports talk radio, very respected) and also by Sporting News Radio as well as every commentator in America and everyone who follows the sport. "Wins are wins" is the stupidest thing I ever heard. That philosophy really helped K-State all those years, which is evidenced by how many national titles they have won after beating up on I-AA teams in OOC games every year. Playing decent teams gets you experience. Experience makes you tougher and harder. Think I'm wrong? How is Bishop Carroll good? Because they play in the Laurel Highlands.

USC is #1 because they have a returning Heisman candidate, the best depth in the nation, and a head coach who just won 2 national titles. THAT is why they are #1. And you say you have a case for Texas being #1. How? Because they beat OSU? Sorry, Charlie, but the ACC is tougher than the Big 12, and FSU just beat Miami and Boston College. If anyone, TO DATE, deserves to be #2 (b/c USC has every right to defend until they lose) it is FLORIDA STATE... NOT TEXAS.

[fleaflicker]

I'd say for now, Texas is number 2 because they beat Ohio State at the Horseshoe, which is tough to do, with Florida State at number 3 I think. But there is nothing proved by going 3-0 against one first year I-A team and two I-AA teams. A win is better than a loss, depending on the opponent. A close loss over LSU is better than a close win over Arkansas State. And only one win over I-AA teams can count towards a bowl game in any given five year period. So Texas Tech needs four or five more wins to become bowl eligible, depending on whether Sam Houston State will count as a win this year, or if they've already used that bowl eligible option recently. Beating up on crappy teams proves nothing. The Big 12 is having an awful year with Texas being the one bright spot, until the other teams PROVE that they are good. Not against Sam Houston State, but against the rest of the Big 12 (including Texas) and respectable I-A teams, like Boston College or Florida State.

[ham55]

[quote="deliverance";p="103915"]
Well, first off Oklahoma is a good team having a bad season. They are 1-2. They'll still make a bowl game. Just remember 3 games doesn't make a season. [/quote]

O.K.

[quote="deliverance";p="103926"]
Wins are wins. I don't care who they're against. Pitt has lost to Nebraska and Notre Dame. Does that get them something special? [/quote]

No, but if Pitt beats both of those teams, then they have a HUGE jump in the polls just like ND did after beating Pitt in Pitt and Michigan in the Big House. Which story are you sticking to? 3 games doesn't make a season, but you'll jump on PSU when they play 2 Big East(BCS Bid conference mind you) teams and then credit the Big XII when those teams beat up on I-AA teams. What's the deal here man?