Ken Salem Part 2

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Kudos to you Packers4 you def get it
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Once again i am in no way trying to disrespect anyone but the combo thats getting the carries now barbin and partial lewis and some sheridan all run hard and fight for yards but unfortunately dont have the breakaway speed or quickness why doesnt salem use a changeup of rizzo more or even give lebda some shots i just dont get it. The one and only d6 year they had schrey gillmen hellman(sp) sheridan forgas and others run the ball and arcirio threw to regula shrey gindlesburger ect ect that and the line play was important reasons for success. Most of the talent was used that year. After that he had 2 D1 athletes who he relied on and he still think he can plug one guy in there and its gonna work. With the equal talents they have they have to use every1. ....I see the backfield/wr and line play talent equal or greater then 2001 and their D probally better than 2001 but unless all the talent is used and changes are made there is gonna be another d6 or before loss is but lets just hope for their sake the all mighty ken opens his eyes
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Wow, I didn't realize our area had such knowledgeable football people. Maybe we could build a dream team of coaches, go up to Cambria Heights, and conquer the world. I am the last person who would step up and defend BM and its recruiting practices, but come on. I think this is getting a bit out of control. Throwing around allegations to the masses on here without making any documentation is akin to throwing the preverbial gasoline on a fire. Step up, state your case, not just my kid is better than that kid who is starting rhetoric. Then you will have my attention. As I have said, I am the furthest thing from a BM supporter, but cannot stand and watch Coach Salem be burned at the internet stake without some supporting information.
I do agree with one of the above posters. BM does not have the big names, but continues to win. That must speak of something for what they do. Correct me if Im wrong, but lets not get into a pissing match as Im not much for playing around.
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What I find funny is that the key players on the McCort team right now give or take a couple all went to catholic school from 1st grade through 12th. This year the recruiting complaint doesn't apply at all. This year if they win you'll have to find a new reason that they were the winners. And to Mr Hype, you would think you would be happy Pete wasn't on the team anymore since he is one of the transfers that didn't come up through the catholic parochial league system.
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SideLineCoach: You Said "BM does not have the big names, but continues to win. That must speak of something for what they do."

What fantasy world do you live in? McCort position by position is the best team in the LHAC...by far. The only team that even comes near the Crushers is Bedford, and they only match up with the skill positions.

Shoot, give FH Scotty Lewis back and He'd be the BEST football player at Forest Hills, and he is just one of the All-Star cast McCort has in their lineup. Over the years...again...I'd like to try what you are smoking? Year in and year out McCort has just as much talent if not more then anyone in the league...that is not even arguable.

As far as I've seen, most of the bashing that has gone on here has been valid, except for the my son is better nonsense.

The other points have been debated about McCort and the coaching staff for years both on here and LHSports...judging by your number of posts I'll assume you didn't know that.

Personally, I just think it's funny how no other coach in the area is bashed like Salem...and the only people that defend him when it happens are the Diehard McCort is Holiest of them All junkies.

Salem gets blasted for the way he runs his program, what McCort is "suppose" to stand for, and his lack of championships.

All of those arguments are valid for discussion.
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Im talking the big names...Kanuch, Forcellini, etc..the D1 guys. I do know that by position they are perhaps year in and year out one of the strongest teams, but I have also seen them win with role players also. BTW..I am not a "DieHard" BM fan, and I think it would surprise you if you knew my background. As for being new, Ive been reading this for quite a while, and have over 1000 posts on LHsports.
As I have said, maybe we should all get coaching jobs before we start to critique a "winning program". If you are thinking back to your playing days and how things were, your the one smokin something because we know that coaching is nothing like it was back in the day. Much more pressure, public spotlight, and parents who feel the need to publicly express their opinion, no matter what the situation.
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McCort May not have any D1 guys this year, one or two D1 players doesn't mean dittly squat if you don't have a supportting cast. And that's what the Crushers have, this year in particular, a whole starting lineup full of guys who can play at the next level be it D1, 2, or 3. That doesn't come around very often in this area, that is for sure.

I agree, High School football becomes tougher to coach every year. There is a lot of added pressure.

But you don't have to be a Hall of Fame Coach to voice your opinion on someone's coaching styles. You just have to know the game, know the situtation, and throw your 2 cents out there. After all this board is all opinion anyways.

How many former coaches do you see on T.V. or are "expert analysists"? A few...but not all. Madden comes to mind and Mike Ditka. But a lot of them are either writers or former players.

I don't think we need Chuck Knoll here to analyze this topic.
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Re: Ken Salem Part 2

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Agreed. I dont see any D1 players on BM..Maybe Domonkos, but not sure. Kicking is a wierd science. I agree this board is about opinions, and I for one share mine often (LHsports was my primary site, but I like this one much better now). After reading this thread, I found it was starting to get a little bit over the top on the Salem bashing. I have known the man professionally (football) and find him to be quite knowledgeable. We all think we know football, some more than others. Tell me this..how do you defend FH's Waggle pass? Would you condense the line to fight off the screen pass against JHS? Who takes the back on CT's option? I wonder how many of our experts on here could answer these simple questions?
You sound knowledgeable about this situation, and I appreciate it, but many are just piling on, and in my opinion I had to throw the flag.
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Sideline Coach, football is not rocket science, especially at the high school level! Most high schools have very simple offenses and defenses and most game plans at this level are simple because of this. At this level, the most important thing is using the talent you have and using a system a system that fits your team's strength/talent. After this the most important thing is motivation. As a head coach you have to instill confidence in your players and after they have this confidence, swagger. Football like every sport is not about players that have talent and are athletic, it is about using that talent, working hard and reaching one's potential. The best high school football teams are not those who are the most talented, but those who have confidence, work hard, and reach their potential.
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Re: Ken Salem Part 2

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While I agree with you on you post, for the most part, I have to say that preparation is a big part of the game. This is where the coach comes in. If you are not ready to stop the opposing team, I dont care how much talent you have. Motivation..yes, but will not win games for you. I have seen highly motivated teams get smacked around pretty hard, and it really doesnt matter if you dont have talent. I have seen talented teams take the pipe, due to poor coaching.
Anyways..i guess that leads to this question..Is it that BM doesnt have the talent that they lost to BC...was it Coaching, as most have stated on here, or was it motivation? Come on now...lets stick with a bash and stay with it.
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