Syracuse.

[deliverance]

Coach, who has as good of a chance to make it to a BCS bowl game this season? Pitt or PSU? It's the same right now, huh? Who made it last year? Definitely not PSU. Who has the better record in the past 6 years? Definitely not PSU. Henne to Manningham with 0:00 on the clock. Oops.

[The Ancient Enemy]

Why is it acceptable for this bozo to say "games are sxheduled 3-4 years in advance" and then get on PSU's case for scheduling a home-and-home with Syracuse? They talked about that trade-off years ago, dude. Nobody knew Pasqualoni was going to run that team into the dirt. And notice how PSU is willing to play a home and home with the Cuse. Maybe its because Penn State already knew the Pitt reasons for a home and home with the Panthers: a weak attempt at making tons of money off the bigger program. If it was about proving a point, which is absolutely not about, then you'd play PSU at PSU 70 times in a row. It is NOT about proving a point, it's about getting 40,000 PSU fans to go to Heinz, and then have 15,000 more actually BUY the Pitt fans' tickets. I'd be surprised if there were 5,000 Pitt fans in that stadium if Penn State travelled to Pitt.

Notice how no one is b*tching anymore about Pitt playing Penn State since PSU is 7-1, how a very explosive offense and great defense, and Pitt lost to Ohio and Rutgers. Let's here it, idiots. You all stopped talking about how PSU fears Pitt.

You won 3 or 4 straight. Now beat someone who has 15 yards of offense on the season and you'll get credit.

[deliverance]

Why would a great team from the Big 10 ever schedule someone from a terrible conference like the Big East? If the Big 10 is so great, why would they do something like that if they're so great? It doesn't make sense to me. Maybe PSU thinks differently of the Big East, or were they looking for an easy home game for two years?

[The Ancient Enemy]

Let's just start playing season games like the Laurel Highlands does. You can't play anyone out of conference. That means, Pitt can't schedule Youngstown State, or risk a loss to a cupcake like Ohio. But you can't do that. Because the Big East needs credibility. The way to do that, right now, is to add games to your schedule who are guaranteed wins. If the Big 10 needed another team, they would not go after Kent State. They'd go to Notre Dame. As soon as Notre Dame turned them down, they'd go after West Virginia or Syracuse or Iowa State. Once again, Pitt would be left out in the cold. WHY??? THEY DON'T MAKE ANY MONEY!!!!! Even Iowa State makes more football money than Pitt. The bottomline is that PITT SUCKS and NO ONE cares. Not even people in their own city! But see, if the Big East needed more teams, they would not go and ask Maryland, or Virginia, or even Bowling Green or Toledo. They'd go after Buffalo and Kent State. Because those are 2 guaranteed wins that make the Louisville's and the West Virginia's record look better. Want evidence? Look who you just added. It is very clear that the writing is on the wall for that football conference.

You watch and see what happens when that automatic bid leaves the Big East. That conference, in football, is finished. WVU and Louisville will be long gone. One will probably join the Big 10, since they need one more for a conference title game, and conference title games = ratings and MONEY, as well as extended credibility to the conference winner. Bottomline is, Pitt will be left out in the cold, yet again, just like they were when those teams left for the ACC. And the only people who don't see the reasons behind that, are Moldo and Titan, who will come on here and blame Penn State, and not realize how bad Pitt truly is. We are not just talking about "on the field performance". Explain how no one goes to those games after all these supposed great seasons. Pitt is coming off a BCS game, and has 33K at their homecoming game. The explanation is very simple: Wannstedt did exactly what we all knew he'd do; he'd generate immediate interest, and as soon as it was revealed how much of an idiot he really is, people would turn their backs on Pitt. Analysts have turned their backs, television audiences have turned their backs, stations have turned their backs, potential players have turned their backs, and FANS have turned their backs. That Syracuse game was a big-time conference rivalry. They BEAT YOU last year in 2 OT's!!! It was homecoming!!! And yet, only 33K show up? Why can you not see the big picture here?

[Coach]

The Manningham slaps are funny...

PSU is 7-1 against COMPETITION

PITT is....who cares?

About Pitt and the BCS...I don't care if they make it again this year. I hope they do so the BE loses their automatic bid. Would you rather EARN a trip to the BCS or would you prefer to make it by default with 4 losses after getting the tiebreaker over 3 other teams who tied for the championship. 4 out of 7 can say they were the BE champs a year ago.

A year ago Pitt made it and got nailed. It was the lowest rated BCS game EVER if I remember correctly.

Every team in the country schedules some cupcakes. You HAVE to since there is no playoff system in place. Texas scheduled cupcakes, USC schedules them, EVERYBODY does...so stop trying to point PSU out as the only ones who do. PSU also had Bama scheduled for this season, but they backed out when they hit probation.

Really, there aren't a whole lot of Pitt fans out there. PSU gets back to prominence a bit and the Pitters are out blasting State instead of worrying about their second tier (maybe third tier with Wannspladt) program.

Sorry...Pitt football isn't what Penn State football is.

[Coach]

Who has more wins in the last 16 years...a better sign of a PROGRAM than 6. Please calculate and post.

PSU will probably be higher at the end of this season than Pitt was in that entire 6 year run as well.

BUT...please post a 16 year record. Or 26...whichever. Don't just pick a random number like 6 because it suits your argument.

[The Ancient Enemy]

Penn State picks up a I-A opponent because a team pulls out of their schedule. Pitt fans call a foul. But it's perfectly okay for Pitt to have to scramble for an opponent after the ACC mess. Oh, and Penn State scheduled a I-A team. Pitt scheduled 2 I-AA teams.

You're telling me that NO I-A team would play Pitt? NONE? What if the team that would play them was Georgia or USC? Would you schedule them? Or would you rather get a cheap win? When is the last time PSU scheduled a I-AA team? But it's not just Pitt. It's UCONN, WVU, and Pitt. Three could not find anyone to play. I find that very hard to believe. The real answer is that a good or even decent team would have played them, and the 3 Big East teams didn't want to risk a loss while they are as vulnerable right now as they really are.

South Florida beating Louisville was the worst thing that could have happened.

[AUSTIN_22:22]

first to rebutte the topic, i think illinois vs. syracuse would be a pretty good game.

second, how good is that win at northwestern now? that is a good team which is finally getting props. they are in the top 25 along w/ michigan.

third, why is this character trying to bring up the michigan loss like it is something to be ashamed of? i mean, im dissapointed psu lost, but its michigan at michigan. they were top 3 in the nation before the season started. its not like they lost to ohio or rutgers.

[deliverance]

I would rather beat a bad team than lose to a good team. I'd rather win than lose. That's just me, though. You have to put yourself in the best position to win. Pitt does that by scheduling these weak opponents because they aren't a top notch college football program. They don't bring in the best recruits. They don't fill the stadium every week. However, they do try to put themselves in the best position to win the Big East. This year things started bad. However, they still have a chance to make a BCS bowl and get humiliated again. Would you turn down that money? I don't think so. They're just doing what is best for the program. I agree they shouldn't have a BCS Bowl. The Big East is WEAK. No team should be in a BCS Bowl from that conference. They have to try to take advantage of that opportunity like they are, though.

[The Ancient Enemy]

Real quick here, let's not get down on WVU or Louisville or Pitt for winning the Big East and playing in a very coveted BCS game. They are just doing what they need to do. You can't blame WVU or Pitt or whoever else for following the rules. Sure, they don't deserve it. But the winner of the Big East goes to a BCS game, whether being 12-0 or 4-8.

THAT is the problem.

Louisville is the Texas Tech on this side of the Mississippi. They score tons of points but are still a garbage team. How the hell do you get BLOWN OUT by South Florida? That is not a "bad day". That's a sign of serious problems. Bad call or no bad call in Morgantown, there's no excuse for them letting WVU back in that game in the first place. Louisville sucks. WVU is a very young team who should not even have 5 wins on the season. Pitt has "gotten better" i.e. won games over teams who are slightly better than Youngstown State. But Pitt will still give up 55+ to Louisville and probably get blown out by WVU as well. Can you imagine the ridicule if Rutgers plays in a BCS game?