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[southpaw]

Ohhh,,, but you guys really believe that Bush rigged everything right? From Florida to Ohio! The conspriacy theory right! It all fits for you guys doesn't it. He really is Hitler/Attila. The usurper a modern day Julius Caesar under the guise of PAX Romana! right

[frostlion]

Clinton's Associate Attorney General says Bush has power...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... entary-hed

Gee, if we can get one left wing judge to quit over this, what would it take to get all of them to? Might be well worth it...

[frostlion]

So then I guess the Washington Post was completely wrong:

WASH POST, July 15, 1994: Extend not only to searches of the homes of U.S. citizens but also -- in the delicate words of a Justice Department official -- to "places where you wouldn't find or would be unlikely to find information involving a U.S. citizen... would allow the government to use classified electronic surveillance techniques, such as infrared sensors to observe people inside their homes, without a court order."

Deputy Attorney General Jamie S. Gorelick, the Clinton administration believes the president "has inherent authority to conduct warrantless searches for foreign intelligence purposes."

Secret searches and wiretaps of Aldrich Ames's office and home in June and October 1993, both without a federal warrant.

Note that Ames's was wiretapped. He was an American citizen SPYING FOR THE RUSSIANS. What is the difference between what was done with Ames and what was done with people we had good reason to believe were working for terrorists?

The answer: NOTHING. The poltical left in this country has not won an election on substantive policy issues in a decade. This is not the government going around looking in everyones garbage or email. It is the Justice Department investigating people who are thought to be cooperating with terrorists. If the idiot Democrats in Congress who were infromed about this had such a concern over whether it was legal or not, then they should have voiced them a year ago.

[Goodwill]

The Libs are tearing the country apart all in the name of regaining power. Its such a shame they really can't win an election to do so.

[Lemmy]

Frostlion, Bruce Fein, the former Associate Deputy Attorney General under President Reagan, disagrees...

http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/bfein.htm

[Lemmy]

Well, they are from Canada, eh

Yukon school group found on U.S. threat list
Last updated Dec 20 2005 09:57 AM MST
CBC News
A group of Yukon high school students who attended a peace demonstration in Alaska last year have been labelled a threat by U.S. Homeland Security.

The students and their teachers from Vanier Catholic Secondary School in Whitehorse were singled out when they crossed the border on their way to Fort Greely to protest the proliferation of missiles.

A document leaked from the U.S. defense department shows the Whitehorse school group is among a list of more than 1,500 anti-war groups considered a risk to American security. They have been lumped in with other organizations such as the Florida Quakers and student unions from major American universities.

Teacher Mark Connell says he was surprised the Grade 11 and 12 students were included on the list.

[Lemmy]

Ames plea bargained to get a deal for his wife....

Thanks to a warrant authorized by Attorney General Janet Reno, a team of agents from the sprawling National Security Division had permission to enter the Ames home in Arlington, Va. There was only one minor problem. The attorney general of the United States does not have the authority to order a warrantless physical search of a citizen's home, argued Professor Jonathan Turley of George Washington University National Law Center. The Aldrich Ames search in my view was obviously and egregiously unconstitutional.

Other civil liberties lawyers agree with this evaluation, and the Justice Department itself was concerned enough about the question to refer to this problem when it negotiated a deal with Ames in order to avoid trial. While Ames was sentenced to life in prison, his wife Rosario received five years. We didn't get to the point of litigation, I regret to say, said Ames' lawyer Plato Cacheris. The problem was that Ames very much wanted to see that his wife was treated a little more softly than he was being treated.

[Pale Rider]

Think back a few years, libs. Remember those 2 old codgers, the Martins, out for a casual "Sunday drive", and they just happened to have a radio, capable of picking up random cell phone calls, turned on and just casually listening, up and down the dial so to speak, when they picked up information vital to getting rid of "NEWT" Gingrich. What Supreme Court Judge authorized that? Was that a phone call from an Al-Qaeda operative in this country to his 'boss' in Afghanistan? No, it was between 2 American citizens from point to point in THIS country! Just goes to show, if a LIB Prez is in office, anything goes, and it's OK. Let a Conservative Prez in office, and it's open season for the LIBs.

[Lemmy]

Ah, yes the Martins (worked for the Democratic party) just happened to be driving around with a scanner and a tape recorder. By pure chance they recorded Newt Gingrich cell call. Even I do not belive that Pale Rider. Their tape recording was against the law.

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Charles R. Wilson, United States Attorney for the Middle District of Florida, and Scott Charney, Chief of the Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section of the Justice Department's Criminal Division, jointly announced that John and Alice Martin of Columbia County, Florida, today pleaded guilty to intentionally intercepting the radio portion of a cellular telephone call, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 2511(1)(a) and 2511(4)(b)(ii). United States District Court Judge Harvey Schlesinger in Jacksonville, Florida accepted their pleas and sentenced them to a fine of $500 each. The statute does not provide for a term of imprisonment, and the maximum fine permitted under the statute is $5,000.

Was it okay for Linda Tripp to record her phone conversations with Monica Lewinsky with out Monica's approval?

[Pale Rider]

No, it wasn't. But if I were in her stilettos, and wanted to bring out dirt on a President begging to have it dished on him like Clinton, I'd audio or video tape also, just to CMA. Let the Liberal Courts fight over the legality of whether I was right or not. Vince Foster obviously didn't have enough "insurance" on the Clintons. Tell me, which President is it that originally drafted the Patriot Act? That's right, it was Slick Willy, right after Tim McVey bombed the Oklahoma City Postal Bldg.