Notre Dame for President.
Re: Notre Dame for President.
TAE, if you're going to repost Navy's schedule again; I'll repost my analysis, again from a nitwitty view: you'll love this:
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Sept. 3 Maryland 6 p.m. Baltimore, Md.
Sept. 10 Stanford 6 p.m. Annapolis, Md.
Sept. 24 at Rice TBA Houston, Texas
Oct. 1 at Duke TBA Durham, N.C.
Oct. 8 Air Force 1:30 p.m. Annapolis, Md.
Oct. 15 Kent State 1:30 p.m. Annapolis, Md.
Oct. 29 at Rutgers TBA Piscataway, N.J.
Nov. 5 Tulane (Homecoming) 1:30 p.m. Annapolis, Md.
Nov. 12 at Notre Dame (NBC) 1 p.m. South Bend, Ind.
Nov. 19 Temple 1:30 p.m. Annapolis, Md.
Dec. 3 Army (CBS) TBA Philadelphia, Pa
It sure looks like a program near and dear our heart! Let's explore from a nitwitty perspective shall we: Maryland and Stanford, well they are occasionally very good, we will never schedule them again. Kent St., hey we have them this year! Rice and Duke, perhaps they have some future oppenings! Boy, there's Temple our annual rivalry and ND our, once every 3 decades save face by actually scheduling a viable team, friend. Then Army...well they embarrassed Akron, in Akron so we certainly can't schedule them; in lieu of that we'll talk up Akron's morale and such!
and Air Force, despite your ripping, has been a top 25 program not many years ago. Also saw E. Mich on Navy's upcoming sched...hey we play them too; another budding Penn St rivalry!
Now last undeniable FACT: Since 2000 Navy=OVERachievers Nitwits=UNDERachievers!
Off to golf course! TA, TA, TAE!
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Sept. 3 Maryland 6 p.m. Baltimore, Md.
Sept. 10 Stanford 6 p.m. Annapolis, Md.
Sept. 24 at Rice TBA Houston, Texas
Oct. 1 at Duke TBA Durham, N.C.
Oct. 8 Air Force 1:30 p.m. Annapolis, Md.
Oct. 15 Kent State 1:30 p.m. Annapolis, Md.
Oct. 29 at Rutgers TBA Piscataway, N.J.
Nov. 5 Tulane (Homecoming) 1:30 p.m. Annapolis, Md.
Nov. 12 at Notre Dame (NBC) 1 p.m. South Bend, Ind.
Nov. 19 Temple 1:30 p.m. Annapolis, Md.
Dec. 3 Army (CBS) TBA Philadelphia, Pa
It sure looks like a program near and dear our heart! Let's explore from a nitwitty perspective shall we: Maryland and Stanford, well they are occasionally very good, we will never schedule them again. Kent St., hey we have them this year! Rice and Duke, perhaps they have some future oppenings! Boy, there's Temple our annual rivalry and ND our, once every 3 decades save face by actually scheduling a viable team, friend. Then Army...well they embarrassed Akron, in Akron so we certainly can't schedule them; in lieu of that we'll talk up Akron's morale and such!
and Air Force, despite your ripping, has been a top 25 program not many years ago. Also saw E. Mich on Navy's upcoming sched...hey we play them too; another budding Penn St rivalry!
Now last undeniable FACT: Since 2000 Navy=OVERachievers Nitwits=UNDERachievers!
Off to golf course! TA, TA, TAE!
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Re: Notre Dame for President.
Where are you getting this that Maryland and Stanford are "occasionally very good"? Stanford has been horrible for 10 years! Maryland will NEVER be any better than 4th or 5th in that conference since expansion.
Let me ask you this... Let's say Akron wins the MAC this year. Where do you draw the line? Are they still horrible? I mean, they have at least one trophy in the immediate recent past. What does Air Force and Army have? Air Force's big claim to fame is a WAC title 8 years ago.
I stand corrected about Army, they won the national title in 1946.
Navy never won anything.
Let me ask you this... Let's say Akron wins the MAC this year. Where do you draw the line? Are they still horrible? I mean, they have at least one trophy in the immediate recent past. What does Air Force and Army have? Air Force's big claim to fame is a WAC title 8 years ago.
I stand corrected about Army, they won the national title in 1946.
Navy never won anything.
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Re: Notre Dame for President.
The Tae ssspinnn is admirable but you continually ignore fact! Trying to make Navy look bad!! You may get an unpatriotic sanctioning!
Keeping in mind exactly what you reminded everyone of yesterday, I believe; that being: Navy, Army & AF are on an uneven field with the powers of DI, recruiting wise:
Let's look @ some of the accomplishments/facts of Navy and the other teams you rip!
Navy had a losing season in '02, I think first year under present coach, but played:ND, NC St., N'Westrn., A. F., BC, Army, Duke & Wake( not too shabby).In '03 navy goes 8-4 ( interesting side note that year, they played your buddies the Mich directional schools- E. & C .- and beat them by a combined 63-34 score!! In '04 Navy goes 10-2 with a bowl victory!! How did UPS fare in '04?????
Then Md is garbage! Well as recently as '03 they won 10 games incl. a bowl victory! In '02 they won 11 games and beat Tenn in a bowl! In '01 they won 11 and lost the Orange Bowl!!! Oh, but NosTAEdamus predicts their ACC recruiting is done!!
To Air Force (another overachiever) you struggle to identify with/give credit to, due to your choking, underachieving ways! Looking @ schedules, which is funny since you as a UPS (we schedule Temple annually, Kent, Fla Int, Turkeyfoot etc..) fan pick on the "handicapped" Academys; we see AF has ooc Tenn, ND, Navy, Wash,Army, and Cal this year and next....how can YOU criticize them??? And I reminded you not long ago they've had Top 25 teams, let alone a solid program! The facts: in '97won 10 games, '98 won 12 games incl. bowl win, in 2000 9 wins incl bowl victory, in '02 8 wins and lost a close bowl contest to a ranked Va Tech team, in '03 7 wins....like Navy not bad for a program that you astutely point out cannot, in essence, recruit!
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Stanford has been horrible for 10 years!
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Quote the Vman: Stanford's record in '99 - 8-3!
Stanford's record in '01 - 9-2! Uh, those may qualify as very successful seasons that happen to fall in the last decade!! Wonder if ak47 8675309/abpk2309 is still keeping score here??
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I stand corrected about Army, they won the national title in 1946.
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Boy taey, you seem to forget the biggest Army victory of all time....
bigger than wins over ND in the 40s, bigger than wins over Navy in the 20s & 30s, bigger than the Battle of the Bulge conquest; last year in the hostile environment of Zipper Stadium they did the unthinkable and shut out AKRON. Yes the very squad that may have the best qb in the east, maybe west too; and don't forget "morale is up" there & since UPS plays them this year they should be pre-season Top 10!
[align=center]ADVANTAGE - VMAN BAGEL AGAIN - TAE[/align]
Keeping in mind exactly what you reminded everyone of yesterday, I believe; that being: Navy, Army & AF are on an uneven field with the powers of DI, recruiting wise:
Let's look @ some of the accomplishments/facts of Navy and the other teams you rip!
Navy had a losing season in '02, I think first year under present coach, but played:ND, NC St., N'Westrn., A. F., BC, Army, Duke & Wake( not too shabby).In '03 navy goes 8-4 ( interesting side note that year, they played your buddies the Mich directional schools- E. & C .- and beat them by a combined 63-34 score!! In '04 Navy goes 10-2 with a bowl victory!! How did UPS fare in '04?????
Then Md is garbage! Well as recently as '03 they won 10 games incl. a bowl victory! In '02 they won 11 games and beat Tenn in a bowl! In '01 they won 11 and lost the Orange Bowl!!! Oh, but NosTAEdamus predicts their ACC recruiting is done!!
To Air Force (another overachiever) you struggle to identify with/give credit to, due to your choking, underachieving ways! Looking @ schedules, which is funny since you as a UPS (we schedule Temple annually, Kent, Fla Int, Turkeyfoot etc..) fan pick on the "handicapped" Academys; we see AF has ooc Tenn, ND, Navy, Wash,Army, and Cal this year and next....how can YOU criticize them??? And I reminded you not long ago they've had Top 25 teams, let alone a solid program! The facts: in '97won 10 games, '98 won 12 games incl. bowl win, in 2000 9 wins incl bowl victory, in '02 8 wins and lost a close bowl contest to a ranked Va Tech team, in '03 7 wins....like Navy not bad for a program that you astutely point out cannot, in essence, recruit!
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Stanford has been horrible for 10 years!
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Quote the Vman: Stanford's record in '99 - 8-3!
Stanford's record in '01 - 9-2! Uh, those may qualify as very successful seasons that happen to fall in the last decade!! Wonder if ak47 8675309/abpk2309 is still keeping score here??
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I stand corrected about Army, they won the national title in 1946.
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Boy taey, you seem to forget the biggest Army victory of all time....
bigger than wins over ND in the 40s, bigger than wins over Navy in the 20s & 30s, bigger than the Battle of the Bulge conquest; last year in the hostile environment of Zipper Stadium they did the unthinkable and shut out AKRON. Yes the very squad that may have the best qb in the east, maybe west too; and don't forget "morale is up" there & since UPS plays them this year they should be pre-season Top 10!
[align=center]ADVANTAGE - VMAN BAGEL AGAIN - TAE[/align]
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Re: Notre Dame for President.
Maryland is finished. UMD and Virginia was making decent progress in the ACC (it was about time, there was ONE decent team in there) before conference expansion. Friedgen was always able to land recruits and steal players off other people. All those kids went to Penn State and Virginia Tech. If Maryland is having sub-par seasons and their recruiting goes down, you do the math. They're already finished, mark my words. So is UVA, based on conference expansion, and the fact that they lost those coordinators.
The kids that UMD and UVA were able to recruit before was because they were a BCS conference that had one good team in it. Now, Miami and Virginia Tech (Tech being the immediate rival of UVA) is in that conference, and those kids can play big-time football AND go to a school with a big time program. Maryland and Virginia are history, just like NosTAEdamus prophesized. Mark it down. They won't be better than 4th or 5th in the ACC.
You know Stanford sucks, v-man, so drop it. Teevens' recruiting was a disaster all those years he was there. The two worst depth charts in all of football (in respected conferences) are both in the Pac-10: U-Dub and Stanford. They are not "occasionally very good".
When I said that the military schools "can't recruit" I didn't mean it as though their recruiting was incompetent. I meant it as in THEY LEGITIMATELY ARE AT A RECRUITING DISADVANTAGE WHEN COMPARED TO REGULAR UNIVERSITIES. This isn't 1946 when every male joined the Army and Army's football team was solid. Nobody joins the service anymore. I never said that Bobby Ross or the guy at Navy didn't do a decent job with what they had to work with, but consider these schedules they are playing. Especially Navy. There is no excuse for an independent to be scheduling I-AA competition. You can't "overachieve" no matter who you have if you are playing competition as bad as Navy does.
Answer this: where are you gonna draw the line with Akron?
The kids that UMD and UVA were able to recruit before was because they were a BCS conference that had one good team in it. Now, Miami and Virginia Tech (Tech being the immediate rival of UVA) is in that conference, and those kids can play big-time football AND go to a school with a big time program. Maryland and Virginia are history, just like NosTAEdamus prophesized. Mark it down. They won't be better than 4th or 5th in the ACC.
You know Stanford sucks, v-man, so drop it. Teevens' recruiting was a disaster all those years he was there. The two worst depth charts in all of football (in respected conferences) are both in the Pac-10: U-Dub and Stanford. They are not "occasionally very good".
When I said that the military schools "can't recruit" I didn't mean it as though their recruiting was incompetent. I meant it as in THEY LEGITIMATELY ARE AT A RECRUITING DISADVANTAGE WHEN COMPARED TO REGULAR UNIVERSITIES. This isn't 1946 when every male joined the Army and Army's football team was solid. Nobody joins the service anymore. I never said that Bobby Ross or the guy at Navy didn't do a decent job with what they had to work with, but consider these schedules they are playing. Especially Navy. There is no excuse for an independent to be scheduling I-AA competition. You can't "overachieve" no matter who you have if you are playing competition as bad as Navy does.
Answer this: where are you gonna draw the line with Akron?
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Re: Notre Dame for President.
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Maryland and Virginia are history, just like NosTAEdamus prophesized. Mark it down.[/quote]
Time will tell but in the previous context I was defending Navys schedule; and we know schedules are arranged in advance so I factually pointed out that they had some legit opponents! Did you appreciate the psychic moniker?
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You know Stanford sucks, v-man, so drop it. [/quote]
Your quote was: "Stanford has been horrible for 10 years!" Just responding to what you said! My response was:"Stanford's record in '99 - 8-3! Stanford's record in '01 - 9-2! Uh, those may qualify as very successful seasons that happen to fall in the last decade!!
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When I said that the military schools "can't recruit" I didn't mean it as though their recruiting was incompetent. I meant it as in THEY LEGITIMATELY ARE AT A RECRUITING DISADVANTAGE WHEN COMPARED TO REGULAR UNIVERSITIES. This isn't 1946 when every male joined the Army and Army's football team was solid. Nobody joins the service anymore.[/quote]
Again you've missed my point I clearly agreed and used your observation to highlight the accomplishments of Navy!
But the next quote of yours takes things back to square one!
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but consider these schedules they are playing. Especially Navy. There is no excuse for an independent to be scheduling I-AA competition. You can't "overachieve" no matter who you have if you are playing competition as bad as Navy does.
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My response: There is no excuse for UPS to be scheduling I-AA like competition for the next 5 yrs no matter how good you think the Big 10 is (which you over rate)!
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Answer this: where are you gonna draw the line with Akron?
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Where am I going to draw the line with Akron? I guess somewhere between Canton and Youngstown! I dunno! The Army loss bugging ya?
What is your point? Am I beating a dead Zip? You're beating up Service Academys; isn't Akron fair game?
Maryland and Virginia are history, just like NosTAEdamus prophesized. Mark it down.[/quote]
Time will tell but in the previous context I was defending Navys schedule; and we know schedules are arranged in advance so I factually pointed out that they had some legit opponents! Did you appreciate the psychic moniker?
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You know Stanford sucks, v-man, so drop it. [/quote]
Your quote was: "Stanford has been horrible for 10 years!" Just responding to what you said! My response was:"Stanford's record in '99 - 8-3! Stanford's record in '01 - 9-2! Uh, those may qualify as very successful seasons that happen to fall in the last decade!!
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When I said that the military schools "can't recruit" I didn't mean it as though their recruiting was incompetent. I meant it as in THEY LEGITIMATELY ARE AT A RECRUITING DISADVANTAGE WHEN COMPARED TO REGULAR UNIVERSITIES. This isn't 1946 when every male joined the Army and Army's football team was solid. Nobody joins the service anymore.[/quote]
Again you've missed my point I clearly agreed and used your observation to highlight the accomplishments of Navy!
But the next quote of yours takes things back to square one!
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but consider these schedules they are playing. Especially Navy. There is no excuse for an independent to be scheduling I-AA competition. You can't "overachieve" no matter who you have if you are playing competition as bad as Navy does.
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My response: There is no excuse for UPS to be scheduling I-AA like competition for the next 5 yrs no matter how good you think the Big 10 is (which you over rate)!
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Answer this: where are you gonna draw the line with Akron?
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Where am I going to draw the line with Akron? I guess somewhere between Canton and Youngstown! I dunno! The Army loss bugging ya?
What is your point? Am I beating a dead Zip? You're beating up Service Academys; isn't Akron fair game?
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Re: Notre Dame for President.
I understand the schedules are made in advance. But the comparison between PSU and Navy is completely off base, as it is with ANY conference team vs. an independent.
Navy is not tied into conference scheduling that hampers who they can fit into their OOC weeks. Most teams start conference competition around, what, the 4th week of the season? Instead of 3-4 weeks to deal with, Navy has open dates for ELEVEN dates. It's that much easier for them to find competition than it is for say Mississippi State or Nevada. Therefore, there is no excuse for them scheduling the way they do.
People watch Navy because they are Navy. Just like with Army. They are inherently attractive candidates for television coverage. There are conference teams every season who end up with OOC foes even in the middle of conference scheduling. So there is no excuse why Navy cannot find a decent opponent, even when everyone else is playing their conference games! Somebody is always NOT playing a conference game that week. It is my opinion that teams would play Navy based on what I said at the beginning of the paragraph.
There is NO EXCUSE for them EVER having to schedule a I-AA team (let alone one who is complete garbage like Umass).
Answer me this: with Navy being in Maryland, and going to so many bowl games and winning so many great contests, why did the Big East also slight Navy?
Hey, that Army loss doesn't bug me one bit. Hell, I like the Army. They're in Conference USA and I love Conference USA. They have an excellent football coch, and they'll turn into a conference contender pretty shortly. I know that in C-USA Army has to play decent competition.
With this Akron thing, I wanna know where the buck stops. If Akron is so bad, and they just won the whole conference IN A CONFERENCE TITLE GAME OVER ANOTHER DIVISION WINNER, what is Akron if they win the MAC again this season? Still garbage?
The Big Bad Booty Daddy and all my Little Warriors want an apology when JD Brookhart has them at the top of the MAC.
Navy is not tied into conference scheduling that hampers who they can fit into their OOC weeks. Most teams start conference competition around, what, the 4th week of the season? Instead of 3-4 weeks to deal with, Navy has open dates for ELEVEN dates. It's that much easier for them to find competition than it is for say Mississippi State or Nevada. Therefore, there is no excuse for them scheduling the way they do.
People watch Navy because they are Navy. Just like with Army. They are inherently attractive candidates for television coverage. There are conference teams every season who end up with OOC foes even in the middle of conference scheduling. So there is no excuse why Navy cannot find a decent opponent, even when everyone else is playing their conference games! Somebody is always NOT playing a conference game that week. It is my opinion that teams would play Navy based on what I said at the beginning of the paragraph.
There is NO EXCUSE for them EVER having to schedule a I-AA team (let alone one who is complete garbage like Umass).
Answer me this: with Navy being in Maryland, and going to so many bowl games and winning so many great contests, why did the Big East also slight Navy?
Hey, that Army loss doesn't bug me one bit. Hell, I like the Army. They're in Conference USA and I love Conference USA. They have an excellent football coch, and they'll turn into a conference contender pretty shortly. I know that in C-USA Army has to play decent competition.
With this Akron thing, I wanna know where the buck stops. If Akron is so bad, and they just won the whole conference IN A CONFERENCE TITLE GAME OVER ANOTHER DIVISION WINNER, what is Akron if they win the MAC again this season? Still garbage?
The Big Bad Booty Daddy and all my Little Warriors want an apology when JD Brookhart has them at the top of the MAC.
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Okay BBB Daddy,
You're on, I will publicly acknowledge your skills if & when JD & the ZIPS (I like that, kinda like Benny & the JETS) win the MAC again. Of course I will directly start my novena for a perfect season:
Pitt is eligible for & wins a bowl game! ND beats PSU! Akron beats PSU! Akron is mid-pack MAC!
OH YEA!
You're on, I will publicly acknowledge your skills if & when JD & the ZIPS (I like that, kinda like Benny & the JETS) win the MAC again. Of course I will directly start my novena for a perfect season:
Pitt is eligible for & wins a bowl game! ND beats PSU! Akron beats PSU! Akron is mid-pack MAC!
OH YEA!
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Re: Notre Dame for President.
If Penn State can force ND to play a 15 yard game, they can beat ND. Giving up anything more than 15 yards at a clip is going to force that secondary to open up and that could be a massacre. Brady Quinn is an excellent quarterback. Even so though, I think Penn State can still win a shootout against anyone based on speed.
The door is open for Akron, v-man, because Miami Ohio is under a new coach still and Bowling Green has dropped off. Toledo lost Gradkowski. If Akron is going to take the next step, this is definitely the year to do it, and the opportunity is very there.
Pitt should be bowl eligible because they have 1 conference opponent worth a dang and 62 teams are bowl eligible now. But then again, no excuse why they weren't bowl eligible last year. Better watch out for The Citadel though, they're coming off a big VMI win.
The door is open for Akron, v-man, because Miami Ohio is under a new coach still and Bowling Green has dropped off. Toledo lost Gradkowski. If Akron is going to take the next step, this is definitely the year to do it, and the opportunity is very there.
Pitt should be bowl eligible because they have 1 conference opponent worth a dang and 62 teams are bowl eligible now. But then again, no excuse why they weren't bowl eligible last year. Better watch out for The Citadel though, they're coming off a big VMI win.
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Re: Notre Dame for President.
That's why they played USF at Beaver Stadium last year. It was part of last year's "No Traveling til mid-October" philosophy.
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