McCort/PO and Tyrone/FH

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Re: McCort/PO and Tyrone/FH

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In another thread LL '05 wrote:

[quote="Lion-line05";p="129626"]It is a little different playing the #5 ranked Team in the State (TYRONE) ...[/quote]

Which leads me to reveal a prediction I made following week 2......
that being BM & FH inevitably meeting again in the playoffs!

Now I certainly do not wish to 'jinx' any of the teams or suggest that Tyrone is not 'all that' or BM will take PO lightly but Tyrone has received all this state recognition yet BM ventured to their field last yr. & snatched a victory....& FH then knocked off McCort.....the Rangers returned most key starters from that squad (minus a few skill players) & I guarantee Tyrone has not seen anyone close to #7 @ the qb spot this yr., which presents huge problems > just ask BM's secondary last yr...it is difficult to prepare for a diverse passing attack via practice simulation when not encountering previously in a game setting!

Similar to what I posted in response to the WPIAL comparisons, in an earlier thread: I think D6 is rather under-rated/under appreciated @ the AA level....I saw the Tyrone Seton LaSalle game in '04 when they mugged the #1 team out of the WPIAL (by the way T. Tate was the best lineman I've seen in @ least a decade)! My larger point is Tyrone is obviously worthy of their rating & always superbly coached but my gut is that BM is definitely a top 10 squad this yr. & if consistent in a few areas FH could beat either team.

All in all, it makes for two w/e's of great match-ups! Vman did not make it to Sidman late in yr. but will travel to Tyrone Fri. nite....should be a good one!
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Wow, great post. I couldn't agree more about D6 being underappreciated and about how terrible the state rankings are...it all goes on reputation and tradition. What does everyone think the game plans will be for these four teams squaring off this weekend??
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Re: McCort/PO and Tyrone/FH

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Now vman i didnt just post here to support my crushers, but would u please forget about the D6 championshp last year, everyone knows rearick did great with good recievers, well they are gone, forget it, y dont you ask what mccorts secondary thinks of rearick this year? sure they respect him, but not much more...

i believe that PO's offense has some pulls/traps on the line, and requires the o line to push back the d line, well po...good luck...i think mccorts fast and strong D should shut down PO, i believe the last year mccort allowed a 100 yd rusher was kunuch 2 years ago(50+ on one carry)...none the less, i think mccort should win..
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Re: McCort/PO and Tyrone/FH

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I'm fairly certain that I will be heading up the highway to Tyrone Friday to see the FH/Tyrone matchup.

The FH line is starting to work together and clicking at just the right time of the year. It is a big difference from the first half of the season. Everyone speaks of Rearick and the passing game... but they should definitely consider the running game. Kostan, Shope, Mehall, and Rearick are huge threats on the ground and can really wear down a defense. Coach DB will surely want to keep the ball for as much time as possible and avoid costly turnovers that they experienced early in the season. But, having the ability for the quick strike makes for a deadly combination. I can't speak for Tyrone, but I'm sure they are talented and well-coached as usual. Should be a very good game!
FH 33 Tyrone 28

I wish the PO/BM game was on Saturday because this game has the POTENTIAL to be a good game.

BM has slowed many good rushers this year, but those rushers were the straight-forward type. The misdirection of P-O could catch the Crushers off guard and bounce them out to an early lead. The Delaware Wing T is notorious for the ground attack, but it also provides a balance for an air attack. The big, fast BM defense could actually be hurt by that. And watching films on this offense just doesn't do it. Should be a good game if both teams come to play. Field conditions will not be a factor in this game.
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Post by Deep Thought »

Dfense - I don't want to be that guy but if you want to say the last time the McCort D let up a 100 yd rusher then technically you would have to say CH's Brian Meese did in last years regular season finale (granted some of these yds. were against 2nd and 3rd string). They haven't let up a 100 yd. rusher besides him since '04 when Tyrone's Brice Merdiff ran all over them in the D6 title. Troy Harris of Bedford ran for over 100 in BMHS's loss to Bedford in '04 and Kanuch like you said eclipsed the 100 yd. mark just barely on a 50+ yd. run.


flak - The BMHS vs. P-O is set for 7:00 pm on Saturday so you will be able to make the game
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Re: McCort/PO and Tyrone/FH

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Flak,

FYI, the BM PO game is on Saturday at Johnstown Trojan Stadium. I like the Crushers in that one and I'm hopig for a FH victory over Tyrone. I would like to see another game between FH/BM. The first one was good and this one would live up to the hype there would be surrounding it.
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Re: McCort/PO and Tyrone/FH

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Since you got the memo re. the game times, I'll comment on:[quote="flakjacket";p="129645"]
BM has slowed many good rushers this year, but those rushers were the straight-forward type. The misdirection of P-O could catch the Crushers off guard and bounce them out to an early lead. The Delaware Wing T is notorious for the ground attack, but it also provides a balance for an air attack. The big, fast BM defense could actually be hurt by that.[/quote]

A Reed - straight ahead forward type...I don't think so!
And I would much rather be big & fast than small & slow???

I'm telling ya the McCort D is pretty good! If PO saw anything close to it that would have been vs Tyrone & i believe Tyrone mopped 'em.

And D'fense:[quote="Dfense wins games";p="129643"]
Now vman i didnt just post here to support my crushers, but would u please forget about the D6 championshp last year, everyone knows rearick did great with good recievers, well they are gone, forget it[/quote]

I'm telling you I've seen #7 play 7/8 times & a lot of people do not know how talented he is! And I do agree with flak' that Don will definitely attempt to establish the run but his m.o. with Rearick is to sooner or later go for the jugular....& for targets he still has Carpenter, Kostan, Shope, Mehall & I do believe Gelles is healthy.
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The recruiting process is just that, a process. Any who has been through it knows how frustrating it can be.

This kind of talk usually occurs every year, and although it is interesting, there is way too much hype into the fact of “going D-I”. In fact, the certain notion of “going D-I” usually ends up being the demise of a lot of players from our area. What really is D-I. Especially these days when a lot of D-II schools could and do take it to D I AA, or even D-I’s like Buffalo. You have to ask yourself…would you rather go play for a strong D IAA, or D-II, or would you rather go to a D-I where you may never play and get blasted every week. The same thing can be said across the board the whole way down to NAIA.

The recruiting scene has changed so much over the course of the past 7 years it is unbelievable. The revolution of scout.com, rivals.com, nike.com, and their combines that come along with them have pretty much wiped the notion of “finding a diamond in the rough” from existence.

Recruiting is so extensive, and based so much now on your actual #’s, that as someone said earlier, on field gridiron performance isn’t really all that important.

A lot of players from this area have put up decent numbers, and then moved on to the D-I level and switch positions. I think a guy who falls into this category is Scott Lewis. Scott is too small to play linebacker at most schools, but he would make one heck of a Safety.

Look at Brad Kanuch. He put up decent numbers at RB, then because of size and speed is converted to WR and plays as a freshman.

Or if you are looking for an example of where #'s hardly matter. Look no farther than Jose Cruz. Never impressive stats, but his size and athletic ability sure were.

From what I gather, the #'s issue is what happened to FH’s Travis Rearick. Apparently he didn't test out well at the Scout.com combine in his 40 which dropped his stock. Conversely, if he put up the kind of numbers he did his 3 years of playing in the WPIAL, stats alone...he would certainly be going D-I.

In comparison to last year, I've heard gripe on here, and from other Ranger fans that he isn't doing what he should be. I totally disagree. He has a less experienced receiving group, and teams are simply game planning to stop his passing attack.

If you look at his numbers... Last year: 59 % completion rate out of 218 attempts. 2240 yards, 25 touchdown passes to 9 interceptions. (13 games total)

This year: 62 % completion rate out of 192 attempts, 1895 yards, 23 touchdowns to 9 interceptions. (11 games total)

His numbers on slightly better than last year, with a "less experienced" and "less talented" (your words not mine) receiving group as a whole. Only roughly 350 yards less (2 games worth at his ypg average) and 2 td’s less.

How is that not impressive? I would say it is much more impressive. FH's mistake against McCort was that they came with the same passing attack as they did last year against BM in the D6 title game. Salem adjusted, Bailey didn't...McCort's scheme was better. End of story.
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Re: McCort/PO and Tyrone/FH

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Opinionguy,

Good post. Couldn't agree with you more on the recruiting thing. And definitely agree with you on it being a downfall for alot of kids. I'd rather see a kid go somewhere and play than go somewhere and sit. The other thing that hasn't been discussed is that if you are good enough to receive some kind of scholarship for your athletic ability, you should take advantage of it and get a free or at least a reduced price educationwhwether its D1 II, whatever. Not too many kids are going to make their living playing professionally.
As for Rearick, I can't believe the Ranger fans could complain about his performance. You're right if he was in the WPIAL with those numbers, he would be getting D1 interest.The kid is a very good QB and has done a great job with that team this year and throughout his career.
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Post by Deep Thought »

Let's look at this on the other side. In my opinion, the "going D-1" craze has made some of these athletes more competitive. I've been to the Nike Camp to watch and you wouldn't believe how aggressive some of these kids are. The Metro-Index camp is the same way...many kids play with desperation. Now during the season they play with that same determination for a scholarship but with the goals of their team as well. I think the "going D-1" has only been good for football. But the "recruiting process" in general as I've said, really sucks for some players. But it certainly makes it more competitive.
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