NCAA Tournament and Idea
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Crimson09Crazy
Re: NCAA Tournament and Idea
i am a miserable person when my team can only get to the 2nd round
Love,Hansbrough,Kaun,Dorsey how bout that 4 players and 4 teams with legit size
Love,Hansbrough,Kaun,Dorsey how bout that 4 players and 4 teams with legit size
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lakersfan24
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Re: NCAA Tournament and Idea
Kaun doesn't even start..
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hilltoppanther
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Re: NCAA Tournament and Idea
Kaun: Junk. No factor at all. Just a compitent sub.
7.1 ppg. 3.9 rpg. 1.3 bpg
Hansbrough: Well, he was one of the top kids coming out of high school. Pitt isn't getting that type of kid.
Love: The top center coming out of high school. Ben would not have landed him either if he were at Pitt. He landed him because he is the head coach at UCLA.
Dorsey: 7.0 ppg. 9.5 rpg. 2 bpg Pitt is not going to recruit a kid with his lack of character.
Blair: 11.6 ppg. 9.1 rpg. 1.1bpg.
Again, where is Boheim and Calhoun with all that height on the roster?
Dixon is an excellent coach that overcame unbelievable odds to win the Big East Tournament. Name another team in the country that lost 40% of its starting line up for more than 12 games and experienced the success that Pitt did this year.
7.1 ppg. 3.9 rpg. 1.3 bpg
Hansbrough: Well, he was one of the top kids coming out of high school. Pitt isn't getting that type of kid.
Love: The top center coming out of high school. Ben would not have landed him either if he were at Pitt. He landed him because he is the head coach at UCLA.
Dorsey: 7.0 ppg. 9.5 rpg. 2 bpg Pitt is not going to recruit a kid with his lack of character.
Blair: 11.6 ppg. 9.1 rpg. 1.1bpg.
Again, where is Boheim and Calhoun with all that height on the roster?
Dixon is an excellent coach that overcame unbelievable odds to win the Big East Tournament. Name another team in the country that lost 40% of its starting line up for more than 12 games and experienced the success that Pitt did this year.
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Re: NCAA Tournament and Idea
Like I said, I don't understand what Dixon's critics want him to do.
The way the NCAA in men's basketball is set up, pretty much ensures that the top teams stay on top. Yes, it is nice when Davidson and George Mason go far, but they don't win championships. And that's exactly my point, here. Those kids from those top schools leave early and enter the draft. But what that does, is keeps the top teams on top, because there is a heavy early turnover rate in college basketball. So when the next year's recruiting opens up in the offseason, kids go to North Carolina and play right away. Then they leave in a year or so. That is how the top teams stay on top: they land a few blue chip recruits who can play instantly, then they leave, and we start all over again with a few more blue chip recruits. It is way more pronounced in basketball than it is in football. George Mason or Davidson are not going to land 5-star talent. Curry is playing out of his mind at Davidson, but that kid flew under the radar because he was undersized. Then he grew again after HS and was a great talent. That does not happen very often.
Pitt is not a basketball powerhouse. They are not landing 5-star players the way others do. It is hard to break into that elite category, and on top of that, there are 320 teams to compete with. I thought they'd throttle Michigan State, and I had them beating Memphis. I think Jamie Dixon is doing a pretty good job.
The way the NCAA in men's basketball is set up, pretty much ensures that the top teams stay on top. Yes, it is nice when Davidson and George Mason go far, but they don't win championships. And that's exactly my point, here. Those kids from those top schools leave early and enter the draft. But what that does, is keeps the top teams on top, because there is a heavy early turnover rate in college basketball. So when the next year's recruiting opens up in the offseason, kids go to North Carolina and play right away. Then they leave in a year or so. That is how the top teams stay on top: they land a few blue chip recruits who can play instantly, then they leave, and we start all over again with a few more blue chip recruits. It is way more pronounced in basketball than it is in football. George Mason or Davidson are not going to land 5-star talent. Curry is playing out of his mind at Davidson, but that kid flew under the radar because he was undersized. Then he grew again after HS and was a great talent. That does not happen very often.
Pitt is not a basketball powerhouse. They are not landing 5-star players the way others do. It is hard to break into that elite category, and on top of that, there are 320 teams to compete with. I thought they'd throttle Michigan State, and I had them beating Memphis. I think Jamie Dixon is doing a pretty good job.
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Crimson09Crazy
Re: NCAA Tournament and Idea
Ty Lawson missed i think 10 games
and their backup PG missed all season.
soo they played with their 3rd stringer for a good length of time and still managed a 30 something and 2 record
and their backup PG missed all season.
soo they played with their 3rd stringer for a good length of time and still managed a 30 something and 2 record
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hilltoppanther
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Re: NCAA Tournament and Idea
That still isn't 40% of their starting lineup.
Plus, let's face it, North Carolina always has and always will get higher ranked recruits than Pitt. All three of their point guards were probably McDonald's All-Americans.
Plus, let's face it, North Carolina always has and always will get higher ranked recruits than Pitt. All three of their point guards were probably McDonald's All-Americans.
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Re: NCAA Tournament and Idea
I was going through and doing a quick count of teams that were left in the Elite Eight and how many 4-5 star players were on their team. Davidson had 0. Curry was a 3 star. No one else had any. So, you cannot use the excuse about not having 5 star players. Texas had two in Augustin and James. James has never really lived up to his 5-star status in his two seasons at UT. Everyone that gets playing time at UNC was a 4 or 5, but it was the same at Duke. It is how well the coach can get his players to gel. Also, size is a big factor. Look at how Texas got dominated because their guards could not do anything against taller defenders. Every team left has a dominating inside presence and/or great team game. Hansbrough and Love are the two best players in college basketball. Sorry Beasley, but you are better suited for the NBA. Memphis and Kansas are quick teams that can score 80 points every game. It will be a great Final Four; more than likely the best ever. I am just disappointed I did not see how much better these four teams were than the rest of the nation.
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Re: NCAA Tournament and Idea
count2infinity wrote:Memphis... yes, i said it. that's my pick.
just thought i'd quote myself here... we'll see what happens in the final
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Re: NCAA Tournament and Idea
deliverance wrote: I like UNC and Kansas a lot. The Big 12 has not done well lately in the tournament, but this Kansas team seems to be different. I will take Kansas right now, but I admit I have Big 12 bias.
My pick is still hanging in there. Hopefully, tonight's game will be better than Saturday's two games.
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Re: NCAA Tournament and Idea
deliverance vs. count2infinity... a battle that neither of us had, nor will have any part in except for picking a team. who will win? :lol:
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