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Changed his mind since the election

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EXCLUSIVE: Agenda disappears from Obama Web site
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Tuesday, November 11, 2008

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President-elect Barack Obama (Associated Press)

Over the weekend President-elect Barack Obama scrubbed Change.gov, his transition Web site, deleting most of what had been a massive agenda copied directly from his campaign Web site.

Gone are the promises on how an Obama administration would handle 25 different agenda items - everything from Iraq and immigration to taxes and urban policy - all items laid out on his campaign Web site, http://www.BarackObama.com.

Instead, the official agenda on Change.gov has been boiled down to one vague paragraph proclaiming a plan “to revive the economy, to fix our health care, education, and social security systems, to define a clear path to energy independence, to end the war in Iraq responsibly and finish our mission in Afghanistan, and to work with our allies to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon, among many other domestic and foreign policy objectives.”

“We are currently retooling the Web site,” said Obama spokesman Nick Shapiro.

The site went active on Wednesday and was available to the public Thursday. The agenda items, which were active for at least part of the weekend, appear to have been deleted by late Saturday.

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The site still contains pages about how to apply for jobs in the Obama administration, biographies of top transition team members and a call for Americans to serve in volunteer jobs and for students to do 50 hours of community service. The site also has press releases and a transition blog.

The 25 agenda items are still available on Mr. Obama's campaign
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"Yes We Can . . . Ban Guns"--Obama Announces Gun Ban Agenda Before The Final Vote Count Is In

Friday, November 07, 2008


Senator Barack Obama's presidential campaign slogan, "the audacity of hope," should have instead been "the audacity of deceit." After months of telling the American people that he supports the Second Amendment, and only hours after being declared the president-elect, the Obama transition team website announced an agenda taken straight from the anti-gun lobby--four initiatives designed to ban guns and drive law-abiding firearm manufacturers and dealers out of business:

"Making the expired federal assault weapons ban permanent." Perhaps no other firearm issue has been more dishonestly portrayed by gun prohibitionists. Notwithstanding their predictions that the ban's expiration in 2004 would bring about the end of civilization, for the last four years the nation's murder rate has been lower than anytime since the mid-1960s. Studies for Congress, the Congressional Research Service, the National Institute of Justice, the National Academy of Sciences, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have found no evidence that gun prohibition or gun control reduces crime. Guns that were affected by the ban are used in only a tiny fraction of violent crime-about 35 times as many people are murdered without any sort of firearm (knives, bare hands, etc.), as with "assault weapons." Obama says that "assault weapons" are machine guns that "belong on foreign battlefields," but that is a lie; the guns are only semi-automatic, and they are not used by a military force anywhere on the planet.

"Repeal the Tiahrt Amendment." The amendment--endorsed by the Fraternal Order of Police--prohibits the release of federal firearm tracing information to anyone other than a law enforcement agency conducting a bona fide criminal investigation. Anti-gun activists oppose the restriction, because it prevents them from obtaining tracing information and using it in frivolous lawsuits against law-abiding firearm manufacturers. Their lawsuits seek to obtain huge financial judgments against firearm manufacturers when a criminal uses a gun to inflict harm, even though the manufacturers have complied with all applicable laws.

"Closing the gun show loophole." There is no "loophole." Under federal law, a firearm dealer must conduct a background check on anyone to whom he sells a gun, regardless of where the sale takes place. A person who is not a dealer may sell a gun from his personal collection without conducting a check. Gun prohibitionists claim that many criminals obtain guns from gun shows, though the most recent federal survey of convicted felons put the figure at only 0.7 percent. They also claim that non-dealers should be required to conduct checks when selling guns at shows, but the legislation they support goes far beyond imposing that lone requirement. In fact, anti-gun members of Congress voted against that limited measure, holding out for a broader bill intended to drive shows out of business.
"Making guns in this country childproof." "Childproof" is a codeword for a variety of schemes designed to prevent the sale of firearms by imposing impossible or highly expensive design requirements, such as biometric shooter-identification systems. While no one opposes keeping children safe, the fact is that accidental firearm-related deaths among children have decreased 86 percent since 1975, even as the numbers of children and guns have risen dramatically. Today, the chances of a child being killed in a firearm accident are less than one in a million.
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I tried to give this warning in an earlier posts, "Be careful what you vote for, you may get it!!!" and "Hunters and Sportsman Beware". So I should not be shocked that this happening, but I have to admit, even I did not expect it to come to fruition this soon.
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Since the momentous day, I've become QUITE confused. Isn't the economy supposed to be BOH"s #1 issue? I guess if he takes everyone's guns, ammo, & money, it would take care of the economic problems...this must be the twilight zone!
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What do you mean I'm allowed to keep my rifle, but not my machine gun? I need it for....oh wait, why do I need a machine gun?
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deliverance wrote:What do you mean I'm allowed to keep my rifle, but not my machine gun? I need it for....oh wait, why do I need a machine gun?
What about that Remington 11-87 semi-automatic that is very popular among trap shooters and hunters?

GONE!

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Deliverance,
What are your thoughts on why the second amendment is in the Constitution in the first place?
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No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
---Thomas Jefferson: 1776.
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What about the uzi and the AK-47 --- ever popular with street criminals.
Gone.
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Jefferson was referring to muzzleloaders, not 11-87's.
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Have a muzzleloader and and AK. An AK just in case those so called "street " criminals make it up my hollow. Shoot first ask questions later and make sure you shoot to kill. Dead "criminals" can't testify against you! The right to self defense is as self evident as the the right to private property. Both of which will be under attack the next four years. Without the right to self defense and private property the rest of the constitution is worthless.
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