Graduation Rates

[The Ancient Enemy]

Haha, I just didn't want you to think these programs are able to hide.

[deliverance]

Not really, you simply take the incoming classes and what percentage of them end up getting a degree from your institution.

Also, the very few in football that leave early for the NFL really does not lead to 50% graduation rates.

Is it as simple as that? I don't think so. How many people do you know that graduate in 4 years, especially, if they are playing a college sport. This means they are probably only taking 12 credits a semester, which makes it impossible to graduate in 4 years unless you take summer classes or classes during intersession. I can just see student-athletes lining up to do that. Also, if someone doesn't redshirt and leaves as a senior then they may not graduate. If you haven't noticed, more and more schools have given up on redshirting unless it is absolutely necessary. How many of these athletes finish school with 96 credits, but go on to play in the NFL and never go back to school? Is that wrong? Once again, numbers can skew statistics however you want to view them. Graduation rate will never be a part of anything. Not unless you force athletes to go all four years. Good luck at trying to get that achieved.

[The Ancient Enemy]

Once again, read the link. If you want more info on the GSRs, Google it. There's plenty of info on the NCAA site. This is not a witch hunt. APBK is 100% right.

[deliverance]

I'm not saying that it's a witch hunt. I am stating certain schools will have higher graduation rates than others due to many circumstances. I know Mack Brown pushes academics as much as he does athletics, so I don't get why their GSR would be so low other than the fact of players leaving as non-redshirted seniors or leaving before their senior season. I just read an article last week on a number of football players that graduated from Texas. I know there's many factors that go into this, but I don't feel like searching for them right now. The whole thing is very interesting, but should never dictate whether a team plays in a Championship game.

[hunterx]

The last time I was at a PSU game, I got a chuckle reading the program and seeing 'most' players major study programs. I mean what is african studies? what is recreational management? I did see a "few" legit majors but for the most part it looked like basket weaving 101 type stuff. You better graduate with that type of class load.

You can Google anything and everything to win an argument.

Everyone rakes Florida State over the coals for being a football factory. What about Myron Rolle the Rhodes Scholar?? Not many schools can say they have a D1 football player as a Rhodes scholar. So now where do we classify FSU? Has Joepa had a Rhodes Scholar?

[The Ancient Enemy]

And while you are on your google quest, look everyone else's majors across the country.

[frostlion]

Good article TAE, as always.

I see on a daily basis (or near daily basis) the "extra assistance" available to a typical D-1 student athlete (in all sports - not just football) and it surprises me that the numbers are not higher across the board. While someone did mention the majors that these players seem to take as being cupcake, some of them actually are academically credible.

[deliverance]

http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/ ... 08aaa.html

Enough said.

[TheAnalyst]

One kid graduates and writes about it, so that must mean the whole team graduates.

And even if kids leaving early for the NFL, etc. have a negative impact on graduation rates, you act like Texas is the only school this happens at. It affects them all, so that really has no bearing. Face it, many of these schools are doing poorly in the academic dept.

[The Ancient Enemy]

2 or 3 kids leaving early for the NFL does not drop a black graduation rate by 40%.