Don't like to say told ya so!!!

[deliverance]

Maybe you didn't see the guy that killed people because he was worried about people taking his guns away? It could be you that lives in a fantasy world. Don't you see people getting killed every day for no reason? You must be oblivious.

[southpaw]

Your the one who is acting like a moron. There are 6 billion people on the planet and their are wack jobs out there but to use ONE isolated incident to set a political agenda against 1/3 of the population of the USA and you believing in that agenda tells me YOU are out of touch in "Reality" PA.

[deliverance]

You're right. There's a political agenda that's out to get you. You best watch out. Are you kidding me? Let me guess the higher taxes will be pointed at Republicans only? You have a weird obsession with Obama and it is scary. People like you are the reason Homeland Security is worried. You are obsessed with every step the President takes and you make note of it. That's a cause for concern.

[El-Moldo]

Know your enemy.

[deliverance]

Moldo, are you saying the President is your enemy?

[RidgeDad]

You're right. There's a political agenda that's out to get you. You best watch out. Are you kidding me? Let me guess the higher taxes will be pointed at Republicans only? You have a weird obsession with Obama and it is scary. People like you are the reason Homeland Security is worried. You are obsessed with every step the President takes and you make note of it. That's a cause for concern.

So that would have made liberals a "security risk" for the past 8 years? Funny how I never saw that report. :roll:

[El-Moldo]

...What is the definition of "enemy"? According to the web:
...1) one that is antagonist to another
...2) one who is seeking to injure, overthrow, or confound another
...3) one who opposes the interests of another
...4) a person hostile to an idea, cause, etc
...Is Obama our enemy? If you think so, then know him.

[Lemmy]

Hmmm, has anyone beside me heard about this before....

The report posted on the WikiLeaks Web site states that “On 9 December 2008, radiological dispersal device components and literature, and radioactive materials, were discovered at the Maine residence of an identified deceased [person] James Cummings.”


The section referring to Cummings can be read here.


It says that four 1-gallon containers of 35 percent hydrogen peroxide, uranium, thorium, lithium metal, thermite, aluminum powder, beryllium, boron, black iron oxide and magnesium ribbon were found in the home.

Also found was literature on how to build “dirty bombs” and information about cesium-137, strontium-90 and cobalt-60, radioactive materials. The FBI report also stated there was evidence linking James Cummings to white supremacist groups. This would seem to confirm observations by local tradesmen who worked at the Cummings home that he was an ardent admirer of Adolf Hitler and had a collection of Nazi memorabilia around the house, including a prominently displayed flag with swastika. Cummings claimed to have pieces of Hitler’s personal silverware and place settings, painter Mike Robbins said a few days after the shooting.


http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/99263.html

RidgeDad link to this site on DHS report on radical left wing

http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/leftwing.pdf

Abstract from a 2001 report done on the radical left wing...

Left-wing extremism is ''alive and well'' both in the US and internationally. Although the current domestic terrorist threat within the U. S. is focused on right-wing extremists, left-wing extremists are also active and have several objectives. Leftist extremists also pose an espionage threat to U.S. interests. While the threat to the U.S. government from leftist extremists has decreased in the past decade, it has not disappeared. There are individuals and organizations within the U.S. who maintain the same ideology that resulted in the growth of left-wing terrorism in this country in the 1970s and 1980s. Some of the leaders from that era are still communicating from Cuba with their followers in the U.S., and new leaders and groups are emerging.

http://www.osti.gov/bridge/product.bibl ... _id=780410

Southpaw the report that concerns you was done in the Bush years. It is being release in the Obama years. It is that transparency word you might have heard about. Where was you concern in 2005 when.

F.B.I. Watched Activist Groups, New Files Show

WASHINGTON, Dec. 19 - Counterterrorism agents at the Federal Bureau of Investigation have conducted numerous surveillance and intelligence-gathering operations that involved, at least indirectly, groups active in causes as diverse as the environment, animal cruelty and poverty relief, newly disclosed agency records show.

After the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, John Ashcroft, who was then attorney general, loosened restrictions on the F.B.I.'s investigative powers, giving the bureau greater ability to visit and monitor Web sites, mosques and other public entities in developing terrorism leads. The bureau has used that authority to investigate not only groups with suspected ties to foreign terrorists, but also protest groups suspected of having links to violent or disruptive activities.



http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/20/polit ... .html?_r=1

When yunz guy look in the mirror is Timothy McVeigh staring back at you?

[southpaw]

Typical liberal response from Lemmy. Blame Bush right? No even better blame Ashcroft. All Bush's fault. This is a political stunt by Barry in response to the Pittsburgh shooting. He is setting the stage for gun control and this is his cover..."the homegrown white ex-military terrorist".

Why are you racist against whites Lemmy? Why are you hating on white people?

[Lemmy]

Southpaw just wondering where your outrage was when the federales were infiltrating the raging grannies and the Quakers. You seem to be suffering from IOKIYAR.

Recently disclosed FBI files show that in Seattle in recent years, federal agents and local police looked for signs of civil disobedience among activists preparing to protest Navy ships arriving for Seafair:


Local anti-war groups such as the Raging Grannies, Not in Our Name and Ground Zero were watched for intent to disrupt Navy ships through civil disobedience such as chaining themselves to ships. It never happened.


A Navy criminal investigator traveled to Eugene, Ore., to find out if anarchists blamed for violence at Seattle's 1999 World Trade Organization conference might return to protest the fleet. They never did.


A law enforcement agent conducted surveillance as two small, Peace-Fleet boats were launched in West Seattle.

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/260424_spies22.html

2006-11-27 | TUCSON, Ariz. – In this age of McCarthyism and censorship, the United States Pentagon has released a new set of documents showing it spied on peace activists, Quakers and Veterans for Peace, in what is surely a modest list of the spy operations of the Pentagon.

Remember back when MoveOn.org had a contest when regular folks could post vidoes about Bush. The outrage from the right when Bush was compared to Hitler. More than half of Glenn Beck show is comparing President Obama to Hitler. Where is the outrage. You complained on this site about FBIGate, when Hillary Clinton was supposed to have access to Republican FBI files. Does this outrage you?

The agency believed that the congressman, whose identity could not be determined, was in contact -- as part of a Congressional delegation to the Middle East in 2005 or 2006 -- with an extremist who had possible terrorist ties and was already under surveillance, the official said. The agency then sought to eavesdrop on the congressman's conversations, the official said.