More trouble in Happy Valley!

[The Ancient Enemy]

Agree, completely. But it is like Frank Beamer has said too: You can't be with the kids 24 hrs a day. It comes down to personal responsibility, not Joe or Tom Bradley's.

This incident was obviously a lapse in judgment on the part of the players. I'm just glad they weren't the ones doing it. That's a start, right?

I know it seems like I am skirting this, but I still think this is a police problem. I firmly believe that in situations like the recent Bowman garbage that the justice department in Centre County took the side of PSU football and slapped him on the wrist. Look, Joe Paterno's depth chart justice is completely irregardless here. It should NEVER even GET to a point where the only "justice" is done THROUGH THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM. Bowman should NOT be suspended by Paterno... he should be suspended by Centre County, way before it ever becomes a football issue. These problems in State College are above the heads of the coaching staff. Do I think that the SC and Centre County police are PSU football fans? Absolutely.

[vman]

Agree
I know it seems like I am skirting this, but I still think this is a police problem. .

Holy denial/minimization Joepa youth! When your reaction to a rape situation is "Geeez, no one got hurt" & your response to the 27th pot busts in 2 months is "I think everyone is over reacting"; I can'thelp but think of the photo one of my on crac....errrr, crack staff members (while disguised as a bean bag) shot in a University Park apt.:

[westmonster]

Penn State's football program is truley ridiculous.
But as TAE would say, they have such a big media market and such miraculous academics so its ok.

[vman]

Yea, it's thee place to go for intellectual ballers aspring to become froest rangers, cops & waiters (Forest Services, Admin. of Justice, & Hotel Management) :?

[The Ancient Enemy]

A kid violates his probation, which was given to him by the actual law enforcement, and you guys get pissed at JOE PATERNO for him not getting into trouble for it. You Pitt fans are so preoccupied with your Paterno hatred that you don't even see the real issue.

[frostlion]

Yea, it's thee place to go for intellectual ballers aspring to become froest rangers, cops & waiters (Forest Services, Admin. of Justice, & Hotel Management) :?

Every Penn State player scored higher than McCoy on the Wonderlic, and what did Marino score again? Talk about brains!

[shocker]

Did it matter what Marino scored? Look at his stats from his college and NFL career. I am sure that wonderlic score haunted him his whole life. Good thing the wonderlic doesn't predict how good of a NFL player a kid might be.

[The Ancient Enemy]

Yeah, stats are everything. Ask Graham Harrell and Timmy Chang where it got them. Chang is a FA in Canada right now and Harrell can't even get on a practice squad.

Too bad Wally Richardson won as many big NFL games as Dan Marino ever did.

Hey, Dan Marino had a great arm. But don't act like a college degree, even in something like forest management, isn't important. Go look at the applications for corporations nowadays: They do not care what your degree is in as long as you have a college education, no matter where it is from.

[frostlion]

Did it matter what Marino scored? Look at his stats from his college and NFL career. I am sure that wonderlic score haunted him his whole life. Good thing the wonderlic doesn't predict how good of a NFL player a kid might be.

48-14

[vman]

48-14, 48-14, 48-14; PLEASE FROSTY DON'T EVER SAY THOSE #'S IN SEQUENCE EVER AGAIN!!!

Vman was there......it wasn't pretty: