Coach Salem

[Dfense wins games]

Old reliable scout.com...

Last 5 years, OFFERS from...
Pitt, Clemson, FSU, MSU, Illinois, WVU, Buffalo, Cinci, Akron, Kent, Toledo, Virginia, PSU, BC, Maryland, UCONN, UNC, Indiana, NC State, Louisville, Duke, Rutgers

The arguement goes back to the statement that div1 coaches all know the McCort name.

All just from BM, Westmont, and Johnstown...

[budman22]

Budman I wasn't talking all western PA I said district 5 and 6.You guys can have your fantasy that div1 coaches all know the mighty McCort name if you want .I would say the wpial and harrisburg and philly schools are probably the most recruited and well known in PA.By the way budman aren't all kids who go to McCort recruited,there is no true boundaries to their district.Don't play the oh we are innocent card here my friend.Maybe the article where the arch diocese in pittsburgh was quoted as saying there is a recruiting problem could be dug out again.Of course I guess maybe you would call them a liar too!

Old guy,
Every kid I named was from District 5 or 6... District 5 and 6 cover a large portion of Western PA!!!! Obviously you do not know that or know what you are talking about. So if all you are talking about is District 5 and 6 maybe you should find out what schools that includes because there are alot.
I didn't even include kids from District 6 Altoona, Tyrone or State College (where I could throw in Jordan Norwood or Brandon Peretta at PSU among others) OR a District 5 high school like Northern Bedford where the Nastasi bros went on to play D1 football (Joe at PSU and AJ at WVU)...Every athlete I mentioned was from the immediate Greater Johnstown area. I forgot to mention Pecora from Richland and Shope from Portage among others who went to high schools around J-town and went on to D1 schools. And I know I have left a bunch of people out,,,but thats the point.
McCort alone does have a great history of having athletes go D1...Just walk in the building, watch the news, or read the paper and you will see the pics and writeups...Jack Ham, Pete Duranko, John Stofa, Steve Smear, the Bradleys, Artrell Hawkins, Andy Hawkins, the Cruz's, Wayne Jones, Shawn Lewis, Matt Domonkos...just to name a few all went to McCort and went D1. And many others went D1aa D2 or D3. I have met Joe Paterno and Dave Wannstedt and both were very knowledgeable about the athletes that have come out of McCort and Johnstown in general - in the brief conversations I had with both of them. Not to mention Tom Bradley who recruits for Penn State and went to Mccort!
Also, I asked you to name me one player McCort has approached and recruited to play football?...I'm still waiting on that....I went to McCort and wasn't recruited. According to you then I must be the only person ever to go to McCort and not get recruited. Wow!
Anyway, Go Crushers tonight!

[budman22]

Good post Dfense...I know theres a bunch of people I missed around the area that went D1. Nick Rizzo from Windber just came to mind-went to Pitt for a while, Paul Byer went to Southern Illinois for a bit which is 1AA I believe...Frank Tomera went to Clemson for Bball (I know we are talking football, but I just thought I'd throw that in)

[usatf oldguy]

The area has had lots of d1 athletes who is disputing that?The names you named were over a how many year period?I am very aware of d5 and d6 schools .I coached in d5 for 15 years! The fact is d1 schools aren't scouring our area for athletes.They will take the occasional athlete but we are more likely to fill div2 or div 3 rosters.That being said I would hardly call this area a hotbed,or McCort or any other d5or d6 school a household name amongst recruiters! By the way Jeff Hostetler,Carlton Haselrig,are a few I believe you omitted.

[budman22]

Budman I wasn't talking all western PA I said district 5 and 6.You guys can have your fantasy that div1 coaches all know the mighty McCort name if you want .I would say the wpial and harrisburg and philly schools are probably the most recruited and well known in PA.By the way budman aren't all kids who go to McCort recruited,there is no true boundaries to their district.Don't play the oh we are innocent card here my friend.Maybe the article where the arch diocese in pittsburgh was quoted as saying there is a recruiting problem could be dug out again.Of course I guess maybe you would call them a liar too!

Old guy,

Didn't you say you were talking about District 5 and 6 anyway? It doesn't seem like youare very knowledgeable on the athletes coming from these 2 districts.
McCort being #1 in the state and having a chance at the state championship would be a team you may see in the USA Today...Correct? Josh Seidel had a nice write up on ESPN and in Sports Illustrated for his game against Richland.
Im still waiting on a name also....

[usatf oldguy]

Budman,I believe I could hold my own naming athletes in all sports going to college or pro ranks from districts 5 and 6.I also believe that the usa today lists nationally ranked high school teams.I don't believe anyone from district 5 or 6 is on that list.Not sure if they list state champs,but thats jumping the gun a little.As far as the recruiting thing didn't someone post on here about a track coach in hot water from McCort for a recruiting issue.You didn't respond to the arch diocese response to recruiting either did you.Of course they said there was a recruiting problem!

[wickedcrossover]

USATF,
I'm glad you mentioned that track coach, because it only reinforces why McCortwould be utterlt foolish to recruit.

The track coach you made reference to is an unpaid volunteer assistant coach. The story is that he was in an informal conversation, made mention that the kid should go to McCort, was overheard by someone who reported on the situation. The coach was then reprimanded and was not allowed to participate in coaching in any form with the track and field team. A coaching position which he did for free because he loved the sport. This is a knowedgeable coach and from my perspective it was the athletes who were the losers because they lost his valuable input. Since that time I am sure that he and other coaches have learned a valuable lesson.

My point is that McCort and all the coaches and representatives of the school are very aware of the ramifications involved for recruiting. Thus, they would be very foolish to make the slightest attempt.

I would hope that everyone on BC is smart enough to realize this and that all the suggestions of recruiting are simply attempts to rile the McCort fans.

[once a runner]

McCort being #1 in the state and having a chance at the state championship would be a team you may see in the USA Today...Correct?

I don't read USA today much, but I've only seen national rankings. There is no way any D5 or LHAC school will ever make that list. They, like college recruiters, don't give any bonus points for being from a small school. There are over 25 AAAA schools in the state alone that would destroy the class A champion.

How many guys in the last 5 years are playing D1 football from the local schools (D5 and LHAC). I'm not talking offers because one guy could have had a bunch of offers. I honestly don't know so I'll guess there are about 10. That makes an average of 2 players per year from around 25 schools. Does that make this area a hotbed for recruiters? I think the recruiters time may be better served at the AAAA schools in the Pittsburgh area.

[usatf oldguy]

Come on crossover if you think a school is gonna be good and you transfer there thats the same thing as recruiting.All a person has to do is lie for the reason they are transferring.I can tell you this it's really really hard to prove.You think these people are gonna tell everyone that I went to a private for sports,I don't think so.When the diocese in pittsburgh says there is a recruiting problem I tend to believe them.They were quoted as saying this, which I'm sure they would try to avoid saying at all costs.All this propaganda that is spread on here is sad.The fact is privates have an edge and in my opinion have no business in small school classes.Apparently this used to be the PIAA opinion as it was this way for alot of years.Why won't they put it back is the real question.Although the threat of lawsuits from the privates is what I have been told.Why do all the private supporters avoid the fact that the diocese says there is a probem? Of anyone I think they would be privy to the situation.Let me answer the question they like the advantage and want to keep it.

[Dfense wins games]

When the diocese in pittsburgh says there is a recruiting problem I tend to believe them.

I would much rather "admit" as a school that kids are leaving for football than academics!