3 out of 4... Not bad Bishops!

[Crimson09Crazy]

Ahhhh the inevitable North Catholic girls reference.

people get way too predictable with their arguments, I've heard them all, and heard them again.

[WPIAL~Titan]

The only things more predictable are recruiting and need based aid for athletes at private schools, along with death and taxes.

Again, it's not the recruiting and need based aid that bother me about private schools, it's the arrogance and denial of practices that are not only common, but part of the culture and M.O. among private schools because they have to recruit to survive.

I cannot understand why some people just don't get this and why it's so hard and such a bad thing to admit that it happens in many cases. It's not necessarily a bad thing that this goes on because the schools need to do this to survive, JUST MAN UP AND CALL IT WHAT IT IS PRIVATE SCHOOL SUPPORTERS: heavy recruitment of athletes to attend your schools and need based aid to athletes.

[jack daniel]

But Crimson, didn't you listen to iamcorrect him and Bill are best buddies apparently and Bill told him he was recruited! I mean he would know better then those of us who actually went to school with Bill. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Crimson09Crazy]

What bothers me are people from the outside looking in with arrogance thinking they know more than they do.

[WPIAL~Titan]

Some folks act like NOT A SINGLE ATHLETE WAS EVER RECRUITED to attend private schools like McCruit for athletic reasons...

Of course, every single McCruit alum in the history of the school has chosen to attend McCruit on their own accord without any influence whatsoever for reasons like: family traditions, the strong academic program, the discipline and religious aspects of the school, or because friends went there, but NEVER EVER because they were recruited to play athletics there.

I mean, are you kidding me???

I am sure that some students attend private schools for the reasons I list above. I am also sure that some attend because they are recruited to play athletics there and often offered a little something-something in terms of "need based aid" to sweeten the deal. Just call it what it is instead of the flat out denial and lies.

Why is it such a bad thing for privates to recruit? Private schools must recruit in order to survive. The North Catholic example was one example of where a school got caught, only because the athlete said in a printed newspaper article that North Catholic "gave her the best deal." I remember reading that exact quote in the newspaper and actually feeling bad for the kid in that instance. North knew exactly what they were doing with her, just like other private schools know what they're doing when they sell their school through athletics. They do it all the time to survive and sustain quality athletic programs, where sports teams are often the showpieces of the school. Heck, PUBLIC schools recruit too. Anyone ever heard of Blackhawk and Williamsport?

Sitting around justifying that places like McCruit have NEVER EVER recruited a "student" because he/she had athletic talents is laughable. If you're in the system, claim to know the system, etc. at least man up and act like it instead of appearing to be brainwashed.

[jack daniel]

wpial

They need to recruit to survive? Seidel, Lowry, Belskey, Domonkos, Schrey, Varga, Barbin, DeFrances, Lewis, James, Sheridan, Spangler, Terchanik, etc. All names of kids who went to parochial schools, all kids who were great high school players, yeah they really would've been hurting without transfers huh?

[WPIAL~Titan]

You totally missed the point...the PRIVATE SCHOOLS need to recruit students to survive, many just happen to be athletes like the ones you mention. Coincidence? I think not.

I am sure that the private HSs don't just work the parochial schools to increase their enrollments.

Read the PIAA ruling on "recruiting" contained in the PG articles I posted earlier in this thread. That should explain the PIAA's stance on recruiting students who are athletes from K-8 private schools. Note to recruits: inform them them NOT to speak to the media and tell a reporter that their private school of attendance gave them "the best deal."

[wpbc]

Sorry if people misread my statement. I wasn't implying that he was recruited. Just that it really kills a small school like ferndale to lose a potential 4 year starter and have a program benefit by gaining 20% of their starting lineup and fill a hole. I don't know what ferndale's situation was at the time or how much Bill got worked with in the off season but if I was their coach and had a player that was groomed come up through the system and then left once he was a sophomore it would be upsetting because the kid didn't physically move his residency.

[jack daniel]

You totally missed the point...the PRIVATE SCHOOLS need to recruit students to survive, many just happen to be athletes like the ones you mention. Coincidence? I think not.

There were plenty of kids who transfered to McCort while I was there that either didn't play sports, or didn't play a key role on a sports team. Hell there were more kids thats transfered there that fell into that group, then there were that were in the star athlete group.

[El-Moldo]

Did you just say 'Hell"?