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youngbuck · Post by **youngbuck** » December 1st, 2016, 2:50 pm

Funny that how a player is great regardless of his competition in conference.
Hank, Brandon Fochtman , best running ever in westpac, best ever in Somerset county but shouldnt he have gone D1 since he dominated the Westpac? Why isn't he playing at the highest level in college, just look at the stats he blew up at Berlin. Please don't bring up his size, Larod was same size.

TheAnalyst · Post by **TheAnalyst** » December 1st, 2016, 2:55 pm

Never understood the argument that someone isn’t good because they are from a small school and play weaker competition than those at a big school. Wouldn’t it follow then that the player at the big school also has better players around them? To me that somewhat negates the level of competition theory in high school. It does have some merit but certainly doesn’t discredit what a player accomplishes at a smaller school.

youngbuck · Post by **youngbuck** » December 1st, 2016, 2:56 pm

Has Collin played against any dB that is in the same category as Xree or Gibson? Both who will be D1 defensive backs? Not his fault in any way, but his level of competition has not been good, or even equal.

youngbuck · Post by **youngbuck** » December 1st, 2016, 2:57 pm

TheAnalyst wrote:Never understood the argument that someone isn’t good because they are from a small school and play weaker competition than those at a big school. Wouldn’t it follow then that the player at the big school also has better players around them? To me that somewhat negates the level of competition theory in high school. It does have some merit but certainly doesn’t discredit what a player accomplishes at a smaller school.

Then why weren't the D 1 schools recruiting Fochtman, he was best player in the field every game he played last year.

12HankQB · Post by **12HankQB** » December 1st, 2016, 3:01 pm

youngbuck wrote:Funny that how a player is great regardless of his competition in conference.
Hank, Brandon Fochtman , best running ever in westpac, best ever in Somerset county but shouldnt he have gone D1 since he dominated the Westpac? Why isn't he playing at the highest level in college, just look at the stats he blew up at Berlin. Please don't bring up his size, Larod was same size.

Well, I'll break this down line by line for you, since you have a personal vendetta against me and you're so much fun.
1. If Tyler Boyd had played in the WestPAC, would he still not have been great?
2. BRADEN is playing at HIS highest level and a great division II program.
3. Yes, Braden is 5' 8" and Larod 5' 7", but Braden was listed as a 4.55 and Larod a 4.48

Bballfan123 · Post by **Bballfan123** » December 1st, 2016, 3:02 pm

12HankQB wrote:
ChrisKentRam wrote:
konjo78 wrote:Ill accept the results. Everyone will have their own opinion.

A good qb is some one who completes 70+ percent of their passes in hsfb and throws for over 250 a game. Who they play is also a big deal. If you play against small, less talented schools, those numbers should go up.
You forgot he plays with great receivers. Another reason his numbers aren't good enough for you.
To be a good QB you have to have throw to bad receivers? is that what we're uh....(mental explosion)

Man Konjo! you should have accepted your "just shut up award" while you had the chance man! You keep talking and keep digging yourself a bigger hole. Who was better than Collin Smith? Asking for a friend...

konjo78 · Post by **konjo78** » December 1st, 2016, 3:09 pm

Who was better when? Your question has no subject matter. I can easily just throw out stupid answers like dan marino, joe montana and more are better.

12HankQB · Post by **12HankQB** » December 1st, 2016, 3:14 pm

But anyone with some sense would pick from our local D5/D6 within the last ehh 15 years for sample size

youngbuck · Post by **youngbuck** » December 1st, 2016, 3:19 pm

If Hoenstine had those two receivers playing on the outside when he lines up at qb?

youngbuck · Post by **youngbuck** » December 1st, 2016, 3:22 pm

12HankQB wrote:
youngbuck wrote:Funny that how a player is great regardless of his competition in conference.
Hank, Brandon Fochtman , best running ever in westpac, best ever in Somerset county but shouldnt he have gone D1 since he dominated the Westpac? Why isn't he playing at the highest level in college, just look at the stats he blew up at Berlin. Please don't bring up his size, Larod was same size.
Well, I'll break this down line by line for you, since you have a personal vendetta against me and you're so much fun.
1. If Tyler Boyd had played in the WestPAC, would he still not have been great?
2. BRADEN is playing at HIS highest level and a great division II program.
3. Yes, Braden is 5' 8" and Larod 5' 7", but Braden was listed as a 4.55 and Larod a 4.48

So the best running back to ever come out of D5 is D2 level talent.

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