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central pennsylvania politics at its finest.........scapegoating is good if its done on dems, Clinton and his morals put us in these bad times.......what a joke, Clinton left this country with a surplus, we are now in a record debt

this is what i get for trying to even mention slightly democratic ideals in the "Pennsylvania T", hopefully philly and pittsburgh can pull through again and make the same decision they made in 2000.

how can you all defend conservative ideals..........we need slots here in PA, why dont we have them yet???? a few conservatives in the state think they're 'morally corrupt'

dont give me this moral trip either........morals are based on religion, separation of church and state.......i think thats one of the best ideas ever, you shouldnt make political decisions based on moral ones, you should make them upon common sense.

bush's christian morals are as thin if not thinner than clintons. tell me where in the bible it says it is okay to wage war on your neighbor? jesus never said anything about killing people, love and peace and brotherhood.........if you were talking to jesus today you'd call him a liberal and hippie. think about it before you take the same conservative outlook over and over and over people.........
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Oh how I love it when liberals start to use the bible to make their points...makes me all warm and tingly inside...

The bible does in fact say that it's ok for the government to justly kill people...

Romans 13:1 Let everysoal be subject unto hthe higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordaind of God 13:4 For he (government) is the minister of God for thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil

Pretty clear that this these verses give the government the power of life and death. This applies to both wartime and peacetime. If this doesn't convice you take a look at the battles that God lead the Israelites through during the Old Testimate. Pretty sure they were "waging war on their neighbors."

Next time you decide to use the bible to bash conservative principles...know what you're talking about first.


As for Clinton. At least Bush has managed to keep his pants on in the oval office.


Common sense? Shoot or be shot...is that not common sense enough for you? It was common sense to attack Iraq to protect our nation. It was common sense to do the right thing and liberate the citizens living under a brutal despot. Liberal common sense tells you it's ok to murder and innocent unborn baby while letting a convicted murderer/rapist live out the rest of his life in prison. How's that for common sense?


Gunner...awesome theory, might have to try it out when I go to the GOP convention in August (NYPD may have a slight problem w/ it though :cheesy: ). I've been to two counter-protests in my life (DC and NYC). These peace advocates are crazy people. In NYC they formed a human chain across the street to stop us (protestwarrior) from marching. So much for the universal free speach they preach. Obviously this lead chain to quite a bit of pushing and shoving. They even pushed this pregnent lady. We needed a police escort from then on. Crazy Commies.
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Do any of you really have anyone whom you love and care about who is over fighting in the Middle East right now? And I'm not talking someone you are simply aquainted with or graduated with, I mean someone who you love from the bottom of your heart? Cause if you did...if you worried every minute of every day about that loved one...if you were afraid that they might get bombed or shot or beheaded simply for being an American...if you can't even listen to songs like "American Soldier" by Toby Keith without crying your eyes out...your total outlook would change. My guess is that you'd be in favor of pulling our entire military out and dropping bombs to annhilate the entire Middle East.

That's my opinion, I refuse to apologize for it, but you are all still entitled to your own opinion.
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Great post analyst

As for the whole slots thing though. I'd have to say go for it. I'm strong believer that the government shouldn't protect you from yourself. If you want to do drugs, drink, gamble, and generally throw your life away, that's your own buisness. As long as nobody else gets hurt in the process, what anyone else does if fine by me. The slots would be a great asset to the commonwealth, bringing in funds just like other states are.
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Great post analyst

As for the whole slots thing though. I'd have to say go for it. I'm strong believer that the government shouldn't protect you from yourself. If you want to do drugs, drink, gamble, and generally throw your life away, that's your own buisness. As long as nobody else gets hurt in the process, what anyone else does if fine by me. The slots would be a great asset to the commonwealth, bringing in funds just like other states are.
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Great post analyst

As for the whole slots thing though. I'd have to say go for it. I'm strong believer that the government shouldn't protect you from yourself. If you want to do drugs, drink, gamble, and generally throw your life away, that's your own buisness. As long as nobody else gets hurt in the process, what anyone else does if fine by me. The slots would be a great asset to the commonwealth, bringing in funds just like other states are.
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Let's also hear an AMEN for Brothers LionPride and WarriorTennis05!
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my brother was over in iraq from january until june last year, and i am 100% for the war i agree that anhilating the entire country would be nice...but from a political point we have to continue what were doing right now
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If all of you want to see a little something that might make anyone change an opinion on their brutality....PM me, I can tell you a site that will allow you to watch the real video of what happened to Mr. Berg from West Chester. I am in a state of shock after seeing it...It is reality and maybe the sickest thing I've ever seen.

There are also a lot of conspiracy theories floating around about this now too....
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knightfan wrote:bush's christian morals are as thin if not thinner than clintons. tell me where in the bible it says it is okay to wage war on your neighbor? jesus never said anything about killing people, love and peace and brotherhood.........if you were talking to jesus today you'd call him a liberal and hippie. think about it before you take the same conservative outlook over and over and over people.........
That's hilarious. You don't think any of Clinton's decisions resulted in the death of other evil people in the world? Did you not read about Somalia? At least with Bush, he doesn't cut & run like Clinton did. Bush finishes the job. Bush's moral values thinner than Clintons? That trully is laughable and anyone with common sense knows that. And the fact that you actually believe that, makes anything you say uncredible.

Warrior - great post. These liberals will make the case about not killing evil people, but turn their backs on the most innocent and helpless of people. Trully amazes how that brain works.

I know that I'm pretty far on the right, but I won't apologize for that. I do base my voting decisions on moral values first and foremost. I believe that if an elected official is guided in his/her decisions by strong moral standards, they will make the decisions I am most comfortable with. Separation of church/state has nothing to do with making sound moral decisions. But why we're on that topic, please explain to me how anyone can reference the Bible, then turn around and shun 90% of Americans (Christians) and forbid those 90% from saying a prayer in a public place, from displaying the 10 Commandments in our court houses, and fighting to forbid the words "Under God" in our pledge? Our nation was founded on the principles of God. That's who we are, and if you don't like it, please take the advice of Andy Rooney on another American right - the right to leave.
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