2004 Election Debacle
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Just off the AP wire, the real story on Drudge's bogus Philly voter fraud story ...
An army of zealous, partisan political operatives descended on polling locations around the state Tuesday, looking for any signs of voting irregularities, and election officials planned to spend the day investigating fraud allegations.
Republican observers in Philadelphia lodged some of the earliest complaints, claiming that voting machines in the city already had thousands of votes recorded on them when the polls opened at 7 a.m.
City election officials and the district attorney rushed to some of the precincts in question, and quickly said the GOP poll watchers had gotten it wrong.
Deputy City Commissioner Ed Schulgen and Cathie Abookire, a spokeswoman for District Attorney Lynne Abraham, said the observers had pulled the numbers from an odometer that records every vote ever cast on the machine in every election - and not the counter that records how many votes will be counted for this election.
"It's absolutely ridiculous," Schulgen said.
Ridiculous or not, rumors of widespread fraud quickly made their way on to the Internet and circulated nationally.
Of course, it didn't 'make its way' onto the Internet. It was planted there as part of the Republicans' battle plan today. And how surprising that these good souls just happened to misread the machines in the heavily African-American neighborhoods in Philly. Imagine that.
Democracy starts at home.
-- Josh Marshall
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
An army of zealous, partisan political operatives descended on polling locations around the state Tuesday, looking for any signs of voting irregularities, and election officials planned to spend the day investigating fraud allegations.
Republican observers in Philadelphia lodged some of the earliest complaints, claiming that voting machines in the city already had thousands of votes recorded on them when the polls opened at 7 a.m.
City election officials and the district attorney rushed to some of the precincts in question, and quickly said the GOP poll watchers had gotten it wrong.
Deputy City Commissioner Ed Schulgen and Cathie Abookire, a spokeswoman for District Attorney Lynne Abraham, said the observers had pulled the numbers from an odometer that records every vote ever cast on the machine in every election - and not the counter that records how many votes will be counted for this election.
"It's absolutely ridiculous," Schulgen said.
Ridiculous or not, rumors of widespread fraud quickly made their way on to the Internet and circulated nationally.
Of course, it didn't 'make its way' onto the Internet. It was planted there as part of the Republicans' battle plan today. And how surprising that these good souls just happened to misread the machines in the heavily African-American neighborhoods in Philly. Imagine that.
Democracy starts at home.
-- Josh Marshall
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
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Hmmm, only 1500 total votes on 4 different machines are the total votes ever cast on them. Sounds about right. :roll:
Lemmy - please explain why there are more registered voters in Franklin County, OH than there are adults living there.
Lemmy - please explain why there are more registered voters in Franklin County, OH than there are adults living there.
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Looks like spin to me. talking points memo? C'mon Lemmy make it little challenging. Spin baby Spin. I'll take Drudge anyday!
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Lemmy: I'm shocked! That site is just right of www.cpusa.org!
That guy writes for every left-wing publication in the country. You expect us to buy that crap.
Don't even say its the same as Drudge. Drudge is way more neutral that this guy!
That guy writes for every left-wing publication in the country. You expect us to buy that crap.
Don't even say its the same as Drudge. Drudge is way more neutral that this guy!
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Lionspride... My search engine of choice is http://www.mamma.com I did several searches on Franklon County, Ohio, voter registration, etc.... I did not find search engine finds concerning the amount of registered voters exceeding the amount of actual residents...
I did find this.... This story was last updated on October 26th.
Ohio Voter Registration Challenges Withdrawn
Computer glitch forces GOP to back off from efforts to throw out thousands of registration forms.
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - State Republicans have withdrawn thousands of more than 35,000 challenges to new voter registrations. Republicans filed the challenges Friday in 65 of Ohio's 88 counties. The party says mail sent to the newly registered voters was returned as undeliverable.
A computer glitch apparently caused the list of challenged voters in some counties to have the wrong addresses matched to the names.
The party withdrew about 4,700 challenges in Hamilton County, and two-thirds of about 42-hundred in Franklin County were rejected. But there weren't errors in the largest single batch of challenges; those are in Cuyahoga County and they number 17,000. Elections officials there are trying to find a spot big enough for a hearing on the challenges
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/news/VoterChallenge.html
Southpaw of course you are going to believe as gospel what you read on Drudge and the freepers site. You lack objectivity.
I did find this.... This story was last updated on October 26th.
Ohio Voter Registration Challenges Withdrawn
Computer glitch forces GOP to back off from efforts to throw out thousands of registration forms.
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - State Republicans have withdrawn thousands of more than 35,000 challenges to new voter registrations. Republicans filed the challenges Friday in 65 of Ohio's 88 counties. The party says mail sent to the newly registered voters was returned as undeliverable.
A computer glitch apparently caused the list of challenged voters in some counties to have the wrong addresses matched to the names.
The party withdrew about 4,700 challenges in Hamilton County, and two-thirds of about 42-hundred in Franklin County were rejected. But there weren't errors in the largest single batch of challenges; those are in Cuyahoga County and they number 17,000. Elections officials there are trying to find a spot big enough for a hearing on the challenges
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/news/VoterChallenge.html
Southpaw of course you are going to believe as gospel what you read on Drudge and the freepers site. You lack objectivity.
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As objective as Josh Marshall!
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Well that was probably my first and last time to visit http://www.cpusa.com....
For the left I visit, http://www.buzzflash.com , http://www.dailyhowler.com , http://www.smirkingchimp.com , http://www.bartcop.com , and http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com
For the right I visit http://www.drudgereport.com , http://www.lucianne.com
For maintstream news I use http://www.cnn.com
For the left I visit, http://www.buzzflash.com , http://www.dailyhowler.com , http://www.smirkingchimp.com , http://www.bartcop.com , and http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com
For the right I visit http://www.drudgereport.com , http://www.lucianne.com
For maintstream news I use http://www.cnn.com
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Last edited by Lemmy on September 20th, 2011, 12:43 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Why don't you just go to http://www.foxnews.com for a little balance?
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