Patriot dynasty?
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Goodwill
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Re: Patriot dynasty?
The Patriots would not even be in the situation if the officals would've blown the fumble call during the snow storm in New England a few years ago. Dang thing was a fumble.
On the other hand, I still think the Steelers were the best team in the league this year but lost the AFC championship game. You could've bet the farm, your kids, your wife or whatever else you had if Maddox had the helm all season the Steelers would've never gone 15-1.
Burress--punk--Steelers don't need him around.
On the other hand, I still think the Steelers were the best team in the league this year but lost the AFC championship game. You could've bet the farm, your kids, your wife or whatever else you had if Maddox had the helm all season the Steelers would've never gone 15-1.
Burress--punk--Steelers don't need him around.
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Exactly Goodwill, one tuck rule away from only being back to back champions and possibly not even anywhere near where they are now, but it was a call that was made at the time and a rule was made off of it, often times rules are approved or disproved through instances like this. I'm tired of Boston...
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Re: Patriot dynasty?
Hey, if Pittsburgh would have won every game, they would have been Super Bowl Champs in 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, and from 1856 to 2000 too. What if, what if, what if. They won, get over it. A sliver of you should be appreciating the fact that you get to live through a dynasty.
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Re: Patriot dynasty?
The steelers may have lost this year but, know that Big Ben has a year of Pro, and play off experience under his belt, WATCH OUT!!!! They will domonate next year. Go Steelers!!!!
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Re: Patriot dynasty?
I am getting sick of Boston as well, and I think lions07 is a big bandwagon fan, but anyways.
As far as Big Ben goes, he was a great QB during the regular season, but I think the playoffs did him in. It was the additional stress and pressure of playing good teams in a one and done situation. As a rookie QB, he was able to adjust to the NFL and able to handle the regular season. However, as the wins piled up, the pressure mounted, and Ben played worse. Look at the last few games he played in the regular season. They certainly weren't good outings. I imagine much of it was the pressure, as well as being used to the college schedule of only 11 or 12 games in a season, as opposed to 16. When he got into the playoffs, he was playing in front of 60,000 people who expected him, in first year in the NFL, to lead the Steelers into the Super Bowl, and he wasn't ready for that just yet. I'm not saying he was, or is, a bad QB, but that it was too much too soon. Next year he will play better down the stretch and perhaps be able to handle the pressure of the playoffs.
The Patriots, well, I'd say 3 wins in 4 years is a dynasty, regardless of what happens from here on out. They practically ruled the grid since the start of the 2001 season, and this is a long enough time, especially in the era of free agents and salary caps, to be considered a dynasty.
As far as next year, well, they will be losing Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis, their offensive and defensive coordinators. That may have a large impact on the organization, or it may not. Last year, the Steelers had changes at both coordinator positions, and became the first AFC team to go 15-1 this year. It's very hard to say what will happen.
The Pats don't really have to worry about losing anybody of significance, except perhaps Ty Law, if he can be considered of any importance. He was injured most of this season and the Pats won the title game without him. However, I do imagine that they will be looking for people to shore up their secondary over the offseason, so really, we'll see next August.
As far as Big Ben goes, he was a great QB during the regular season, but I think the playoffs did him in. It was the additional stress and pressure of playing good teams in a one and done situation. As a rookie QB, he was able to adjust to the NFL and able to handle the regular season. However, as the wins piled up, the pressure mounted, and Ben played worse. Look at the last few games he played in the regular season. They certainly weren't good outings. I imagine much of it was the pressure, as well as being used to the college schedule of only 11 or 12 games in a season, as opposed to 16. When he got into the playoffs, he was playing in front of 60,000 people who expected him, in first year in the NFL, to lead the Steelers into the Super Bowl, and he wasn't ready for that just yet. I'm not saying he was, or is, a bad QB, but that it was too much too soon. Next year he will play better down the stretch and perhaps be able to handle the pressure of the playoffs.
The Patriots, well, I'd say 3 wins in 4 years is a dynasty, regardless of what happens from here on out. They practically ruled the grid since the start of the 2001 season, and this is a long enough time, especially in the era of free agents and salary caps, to be considered a dynasty.
As far as next year, well, they will be losing Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis, their offensive and defensive coordinators. That may have a large impact on the organization, or it may not. Last year, the Steelers had changes at both coordinator positions, and became the first AFC team to go 15-1 this year. It's very hard to say what will happen.
The Pats don't really have to worry about losing anybody of significance, except perhaps Ty Law, if he can be considered of any importance. He was injured most of this season and the Pats won the title game without him. However, I do imagine that they will be looking for people to shore up their secondary over the offseason, so really, we'll see next August.
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Re: Patriot dynasty?
getting sick of boston because they pretty much dominated 2004... and i am a bandwagon fan am i? well exactly how long do you have to be on the bandwagon to not be a bandwagon fan anymore... because i have likes he pats for a few years now... is that long enough to be considered a fan rather than a bandwagon jumper? or isn't that long enough...
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Re: Patriot dynasty?
Flea, why would a team that held the Colts to 3 points have to shore up their secondary? I thought their secondary did an excellent job this season.
lions07, if the only team you have ever rooted for is the Patriots, then you are not a bandwagon fan......unless you stop rooting for them when they fall on hard times (and they will....all teams do....although that may not happen for a few years).
lions07, if the only team you have ever rooted for is the Patriots, then you are not a bandwagon fan......unless you stop rooting for them when they fall on hard times (and they will....all teams do....although that may not happen for a few years).
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Re: Patriot dynasty?
It's just taking note that New England wasn't nearly as popular before they won the Super Bowl in 2002. A bandwagon fan is fan that all of a sudden decided to support a team because they won the Super Bowl, and continues to support this team when they do well. If the Patriots crash and fall over the next few years, and you are still a loyal and faithful fan, then you are beyond bandwagon fan status. But if they don't, it would be difficult to prove otherwise.
As far as being sick of Boston, what's the point of having a football season if you know who's going to win the Super Bowl? I want a bit of variety, that is the spice of life, in the biggest games of the season. Like I'd like to see the Steelers play for the Super Bowl, or if not them, the Chargers or the Jets. But I'm getting tired of having the same team in the big game each and every year. Of course, if it were the Steelers, I doubt I'd mind, but anybody else, yeah, I would.
On another note, most of the people out here were rooting for the Eagles, since the Patriots had Corey Dillon on their team, and here in Cincinnati, he was like dead weight dragging the Bengals underwater with his remarks and behavior during the 2003 season. All of a sudden he's a team player? Yeah right, he just wants to win, and knows enough that if he wants to win on that team, he has to keep his mouth shut. Did anybody note that there was little coming from Dillon's mouth before Marvin Lewis came to town? Anyways...
Once a runner, the reason the Pats will look to shore up their secondary is because Randell Gay and Troy Brown and Asante Samuel all had to play back there. Look at what happened in the weeks before the Super Bowl when the Patriots went and got Hank Poteat. They did that for a reason. I think they will get rid of Ty Law, and look get a few more defensive backs so that they don't have to have their wide outs playing both ways all the time. It would also be good to be able to get the two inexperienced corners (Gay and Samuel were rookies) off the field a little while and let them improve. Gay didn't even start for the college team he was on, and he went from one start as a senior at LSU to however many at New England. He can't be that good. But the one thing that will influence who comes in at defensive back will be chemistry and team work, as well as individual skills. The Patriots will NOT get anybody that doesn't fit their system.
As far as being sick of Boston, what's the point of having a football season if you know who's going to win the Super Bowl? I want a bit of variety, that is the spice of life, in the biggest games of the season. Like I'd like to see the Steelers play for the Super Bowl, or if not them, the Chargers or the Jets. But I'm getting tired of having the same team in the big game each and every year. Of course, if it were the Steelers, I doubt I'd mind, but anybody else, yeah, I would.
On another note, most of the people out here were rooting for the Eagles, since the Patriots had Corey Dillon on their team, and here in Cincinnati, he was like dead weight dragging the Bengals underwater with his remarks and behavior during the 2003 season. All of a sudden he's a team player? Yeah right, he just wants to win, and knows enough that if he wants to win on that team, he has to keep his mouth shut. Did anybody note that there was little coming from Dillon's mouth before Marvin Lewis came to town? Anyways...
Once a runner, the reason the Pats will look to shore up their secondary is because Randell Gay and Troy Brown and Asante Samuel all had to play back there. Look at what happened in the weeks before the Super Bowl when the Patriots went and got Hank Poteat. They did that for a reason. I think they will get rid of Ty Law, and look get a few more defensive backs so that they don't have to have their wide outs playing both ways all the time. It would also be good to be able to get the two inexperienced corners (Gay and Samuel were rookies) off the field a little while and let them improve. Gay didn't even start for the college team he was on, and he went from one start as a senior at LSU to however many at New England. He can't be that good. But the one thing that will influence who comes in at defensive back will be chemistry and team work, as well as individual skills. The Patriots will NOT get anybody that doesn't fit their system.
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Re: Patriot dynasty?
If you only liked the Pats for a few years I'd say you are still a bandwagon fan. Being the Pats started their winning strike only a few years ago. We'll see what happens when the Pats start losing. Will you jump to the next greatest team(THE BANDWAGON), or will you be true to your team?
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Re: Patriot dynasty?
flea... sorry that i did not become a pats fan when i was 6... my bad... and if you know that the pats are going to win the super bowl... why do you get upset? if you know it is going to happen you should be prepared... and quad... it's also my bad that the pats don't suck... yea if they suck next year i will still like them... becasue I AM A PATRIOTS FAN... bottom line... everyone get over the bandwagon thing... i am only a bandwagon fan because they won the last 2 super bowls.... they didn't win in 02... guess what... i still liked them...
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