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Re: West Virginia vs Syracuse

Posted: October 18th, 2004, 4:03 pm
by fleaflicker
Right now the Big East consists of 7 members. Those are West Virginia, Pittsburgh, Connecticut, Syracuse, Boston College, Rutgers, and Temple. Does anybody consider that a strong schedule?

They pick up Cincinnati, Louisville, Marquette, and Depaul next year. Only one of those programs is any good at football, and that is Louisville. Cincinnati just lost to Army to end Army's 19 game losing streak, and I don't think that the other two play D1 in football yet. That doesn't make the Big East look any better really. But maybe it's a good thing they keep their BCS berth, cuz next year Louisville has a good shot at making a BCS bowl.

Re: West Virginia vs Syracuse

Posted: October 18th, 2004, 6:13 pm
by HOLLYWOOD
Louisville plays Miami tough and everyone thinks they are a world beater but look what West Virginia did to Miami last year so that must mean West Virginia is pretty good team as well. You missed South Florida in teams joining the Big East in 05 and they are a pretty good football team as well since in the state of Florida, which has some great HS football. Everyone just keep talking smack, I just sit here and laugh at you!! Go EERS

Re: West Virginia vs Syracuse

Posted: October 18th, 2004, 6:54 pm
by fleaflicker
South Florida is one of those teams that big D1 schools beat up on for practice. I would like to know what West Virginia would do against a schedule consisting of Northwestern, Ohio State, Michigan, Purdue, Wisconsin, and Iowa. Whether you like it or not, the Big Ten has a much tougher schedule than the Weak East. I will be the first to admit that Penn State stinks this year, and will be hard pressed to get more than three wins, but I still don't think West Virginia is as good as their record indicates. If they were beating teams of the quality of Michigan, Purdue, and Wisconsin, I would take notice. But they're not, and most of the teams aren't anywhere close.

Re: West Virginia vs Syracuse

Posted: October 18th, 2004, 7:02 pm
by HOLLYWOOD
Well take PSU out of the Big 10 and they would not win the Big East so that shows how great they are huh?? Don't blame it on the Schedule because they use to win in the Big 10 if you can remember that far back!! Then Utah and all them shouldn't be on the radar of the top 25 if schedule was the case right?? How would you know who is good and not good this year??

Re: West Virginia vs Syracuse

Posted: October 18th, 2004, 7:13 pm
by fleaflicker
Well, Utah beat Texas A&M, a big 12 team, and a good one at that. West Virginia lost to Virginia Tech. They also beat North Carolina, and have been putting a lot of points on the board.

West Virginia beat East Carolina, UCF, Maryland (in OT), James Madison, and Connecticut. They lost to Virginia Tech. Maryland lost to NC State and Georgia Tech by 13-3 and 20-7 respectively. So West Virgina could barely beat a middle of the road ACC team, and they're at the top of their conference. It doesn't say anything good about their conference, that's for sure.

Re: West Virginia vs Syracuse

Posted: October 18th, 2004, 7:50 pm
by kohlslaw5
The voters that make up the poll like to get cute.
They think they have to give the rankings to the teams with the better records once they are outside of the top 12 or so. I don't honestly believe Utah is the 11th best team in the nation or whatever they're ranked, nobody go look it up like a little geek or whatever. Truth is though, under the BCS, the regular polls matter nothing. Put PSU in the Big East and they'd be a powerhouse. Put WVU in the big 10, they'd be a pushover. Put Pitt in the PSAC, they'd be right at the level they're playing about now. Basically, ratings rankings, all of it, matters nothing, while the tyrant by the name of BCS is still around. I think it'd be great to set up like a 3 game regular season where teams play their rivals,cut the 210 schools or whatever down to about 50-something, then a NCAA basketball style tournaments with several brackets (4). The champs of those four brackets would play a roudn robin. Sure, it would stretch out the season, but I think it might be slightly more interesting. Of course, you'd have recruiters crying becase a team would only be guaranteed such a small amount of games, but oh well. I'm hoping changes are on the way for NCAA football.

Re: West Virginia vs Syracuse

Posted: October 18th, 2004, 8:27 pm
by fleaflicker
I'm with you on your idea, kohlslaw, though I think Utah is probably almost as good as advertised. But it'd be interesting to see say, a 10 game college regular season from late August to about late November, then pick out 32 teams out of the 117 playing division 1, and have an elimination tournament. And any other teams left out can schedule one game before December 15 with whoever they want for a 'bowl' or showdown or whatever. If a winless SMU wants to play against a winless Temple team for the worst in the country, let them. If a 4-6 PSU team wants to face off against Pittsburgh, let them. It'd be a good way to let colleges renew rivalries and still make money from December games, and perhaps get a little TV time if it doesn't cut into any playoff games. That would level the playing field a bit more.

Re: West Virginia vs Syracuse

Posted: October 18th, 2004, 10:12 pm
by HOLLYWOOD
fleaflicker,

Who are you?? Do you know college football with all your expert knowledge? you can try to put down West Virginia all you want but you will never budge me a bit. They are as strong as anyone and will play in a bowl game and represent well. They lost to another top 25 team so how can you say or tell teams they are better unless it is head to head action. Wake up some and stop hatin!! Almighty PSU lost to Boston College for two years in a row and I don't think BC is a power in the Big East so saying they would win the Big East year in and year out is just stupid! Now What?Go EERS

Re: West Virginia vs Syracuse

Posted: October 19th, 2004, 12:51 am
by goodbuddy
whats syracuse ranked?

Re: West Virginia vs Syracuse

Posted: October 19th, 2004, 1:11 am
by thepalerider
First of all flea flicker Cincy isnt a bad program they lost to Army but they got a new head coach this year. the Cardinals are a good program from what we saw against the U.

Next point, Marquette, and Depaul are only joining in bball. We will have a nice bball schedule.

South Fla will become a good program, they have awesome facilities and tons of loot they will win. They signed 1 5 star player last year yes 5 star player PSU fans!

Flea your playing alot of What ifs with your well he beat him so he should beat him, and he played him tougher that isnt always true. VT will play anyone tough in Blacksburg if USC played there to start the season i bet they would have lost, its one of the toughest and loudest places to play in the nation.

Goodbuddy the Cuse is fighting for a bowl bid which is more than PSU is playing for right now they are playing for a 500 season